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What about inside those cities? Like from my apartment on this side of town to the other side.

satvikpendem 3y ago
What about the inside? I live in NYC and its metro and bus system is amazing, and even then it's still worse than what I experienced in Asia, we're for example in Seoul, I did not have to walk more than five minutes to be able to get on a train or bus and when I got off, I similarly did not have to walk more than five minutes to get to my end destination.
- valval 3y ago
  What about someone who doesn’t want to travel with other people in public transport, and also doesn’t want to walk the 10 minutes of the journey?
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    Then I guess it's their loss. Unless they're unable to use public transport, I shouldn't have to have the externalities of them using cars, such as carbon emissions, parking space that would otherwise be used, noise and light pollution, etc.
    - valval 3y ago
      I guess the people having to deal with the externalities could consider them their loss.
  - LikesPwsh 3y ago
    They could pay more to cover the externalities, and enjoy relatively empty roads. Town centers will soon be inaccessible by car, so they'll still need public transport occasionally for that.
  - oblio 3y ago
    > and also doesn’t want to walk the 10 minutes of the journey? If they have a pre-existing medical condition: sure, they can use an alternative method of transportation. If they don't want to walk for 10 minutes, they're bound to have a medical condition soon-ish.
    - valval 3y ago
      Walking seems like a waste of time to me. It's a slow form of transportation and a very inefficient form of exercise.
      - oblio 3y ago
        Yet most people don't exercise, obesity is skyrocketing and personal responsibility is failing. But hey, you got yours so who cares about others, right?
  - pharmakom 3y ago
    If you want avoid other people like that you probably shouldn’t live in a city.
adgjlsfhk1 3y ago
subways, trams and buses. good systems can easily be faster than cars dinner thru don't have traffic and you don't need to find parking. for short distances, bikes are also great.
- josephcsible 3y ago
  I know I'm just one data point, but for my commute to work, taking public transit is about 30 minutes slower than driving at rush hour.
  - coutego 3y ago
    Just another data point: walking to work takes 15 minutes for me. Same time by metro. Driving is 45-60 minutes.
    - someweirdperson 3y ago
      Sound as if bike-roads are missing, a bike would reduce it to 5 minutes.

What about the inside? I live in NYC and its metro and bus system is amazing, and even then it's still worse than what I experienced in Asia, we're for example in Seoul, I did not have to walk more than five minutes to be able to get on a train or bus and when I got off, I similarly did not have to walk more than five minutes to get to my end destination.

valval 3y ago
What about someone who doesn’t want to travel with other people in public transport, and also doesn’t want to walk the 10 minutes of the journey?
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Then I guess it's their loss. Unless they're unable to use public transport, I shouldn't have to have the externalities of them using cars, such as carbon emissions, parking space that would otherwise be used, noise and light pollution, etc.
  - valval 3y ago
    I guess the people having to deal with the externalities could consider them their loss.
- LikesPwsh 3y ago
  They could pay more to cover the externalities, and enjoy relatively empty roads. Town centers will soon be inaccessible by car, so they'll still need public transport occasionally for that.
- oblio 3y ago
  > and also doesn’t want to walk the 10 minutes of the journey? If they have a pre-existing medical condition: sure, they can use an alternative method of transportation. If they don't want to walk for 10 minutes, they're bound to have a medical condition soon-ish.
  - valval 3y ago
    Walking seems like a waste of time to me. It's a slow form of transportation and a very inefficient form of exercise.
    - oblio 3y ago
      Yet most people don't exercise, obesity is skyrocketing and personal responsibility is failing. But hey, you got yours so who cares about others, right?
- pharmakom 3y ago
  If you want avoid other people like that you probably shouldn’t live in a city.

adgjlsfhk1 3y ago

subways, trams and buses. good systems can easily be faster than cars dinner thru don't have traffic and you don't need to find parking. for short distances, bikes are also great.

josephcsible 3y ago
I know I'm just one data point, but for my commute to work, taking public transit is about 30 minutes slower than driving at rush hour.
- coutego 3y ago
  Just another data point: walking to work takes 15 minutes for me. Same time by metro. Driving is 45-60 minutes.
  - someweirdperson 3y ago
    Sound as if bike-roads are missing, a bike would reduce it to 5 minutes.