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With a Mac Studio it isn't just relatively silent in almost cases it is silent. With a PC you still have case fans running because even with modern motherboard

With a Mac Studio it isn't just relatively silent in almost cases it is silent. With a PC you still have case fans running because even with modern motherboards they don't support switching them off at low temperature. You need to be running special Windows software. And to cool the CPU you really need to be running AIO or dedicated water coolers which themselves will have 3 fans almost always running.

TylerE 3y ago
The fans in a max studio never actually turn off… they’re just really really quiet, and I’ve never managed to actually make the fans come off idle, even maxing out all cores.
- washadjeffmad 3y ago
  It takes sustained usage for the heatsink to saturate, and then the fans ramp up quickly. They do stay next to silent otherwise.
tomnipotent 3y ago
> cool the CPU you really need to be running AIO or dedicated water coolers There is no shortage of silent air coolers, such as the NH-D15, that are 20-30 dBA and undetectable unless the only noise in the room. It's usually stock case fans that are the culprit.
- threeseed 3y ago
  If you're running a PC with a dedicated GPU then you will have minimum 6 extra fans. 3 for the GPU and 3 for the case. The latter are pretty noisy and constantly run.
  - sarsaparilyptus 3y ago
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  - tomnipotent 3y ago
    Sure, loud fans are loud but anyone that cares about noise is not using OEM fans, and picking up something from Noctua/Arctic. It's also common to upgrade to 140mm fans which further reduces noise.
  - LeoNatan25 3y ago
    You seems to live in the 90s or early 00s, sorry. Consumer fan technology has come a long way since those days. Case sound dampening has also come a long way, so the little noise that fans do make, it gets pretty well dampened inside the case.
Ygg2 3y ago
> With a PC you still have case fans running because even with modern motherboards they don't support switching them off at low temperature What do you mean? Most motherboards support sending 0W to fans at given temps. You just install the motherboard software.
- threeseed 3y ago
  The motherboard software that is Windows only.
  - Ygg2 3y ago
    Or bios, or whatever has, although non-Windows support is generally bad in hardware because it requires open sourcing drivers.
  - LeoNatan25 3y ago
    I am not familiar with any motherboard that does not expose all its capabilities through BIOS or UEFI. Yes, it might be less convenient to have to reboot to set a fan curve, but it’s certainly possible. And the Windows software is so terrible anyway, going through BIOS is always my first choice.
Toutouxc 3y ago
> even with modern motherboards they don't support switching them off at low temperature I have a ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II motherboard in my desktop set to do exactly that, under I think 48 °C it stops the case fans. No Windows software required, it’s all in the MB’s BIOS.
LeoNatan25 3y ago
The Mac Studio in particular is a terrible example to use here. At least the first iteration of it. It has a fan that is constantly spinning, and it’s a cheap fan, so it creates a very annoying whine sound at low RPMs: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/09/mysterious-noise-sparks-complaints/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/09/mysterious-noise-sparks... Hopefully, Apple has solved this issue with the second iteration.

TylerE 3y ago

The fans in a max studio never actually turn off… they’re just really really quiet, and I’ve never managed to actually make the fans come off idle, even maxing out all cores.

washadjeffmad 3y ago
It takes sustained usage for the heatsink to saturate, and then the fans ramp up quickly. They do stay next to silent otherwise.

tomnipotent 3y ago

> cool the CPU you really need to be running AIO or dedicated water coolers There is no shortage of silent air coolers, such as the NH-D15, that are 20-30 dBA and undetectable unless the only noise in the room. It's usually stock case fans that are the culprit.

threeseed 3y ago
If you're running a PC with a dedicated GPU then you will have minimum 6 extra fans. 3 for the GPU and 3 for the case. The latter are pretty noisy and constantly run.
- sarsaparilyptus 3y ago
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- tomnipotent 3y ago
  Sure, loud fans are loud but anyone that cares about noise is not using OEM fans, and picking up something from Noctua/Arctic. It's also common to upgrade to 140mm fans which further reduces noise.
- LeoNatan25 3y ago
  You seems to live in the 90s or early 00s, sorry. Consumer fan technology has come a long way since those days. Case sound dampening has also come a long way, so the little noise that fans do make, it gets pretty well dampened inside the case.

Ygg2 3y ago

> With a PC you still have case fans running because even with modern motherboards they don't support switching them off at low temperature What do you mean? Most motherboards support sending 0W to fans at given temps. You just install the motherboard software.

threeseed 3y ago
The motherboard software that is Windows only.
- Ygg2 3y ago
  Or bios, or whatever has, although non-Windows support is generally bad in hardware because it requires open sourcing drivers.
- LeoNatan25 3y ago
  I am not familiar with any motherboard that does not expose all its capabilities through BIOS or UEFI. Yes, it might be less convenient to have to reboot to set a fan curve, but it’s certainly possible. And the Windows software is so terrible anyway, going through BIOS is always my first choice.

Toutouxc 3y ago

> even with modern motherboards they don't support switching them off at low temperature I have a ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II motherboard in my desktop set to do exactly that, under I think 48 °C it stops the case fans. No Windows software required, it’s all in the MB’s BIOS.

LeoNatan25 3y ago

The Mac Studio in particular is a terrible example to use here. At least the first iteration of it. It has a fan that is constantly spinning, and it’s a cheap fan, so it creates a very annoying whine sound at low RPMs: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/09/mysterious-noise-sparks-complaints/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/09/mysterious-noise-sparks... Hopefully, Apple has solved this issue with the second iteration.