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I only did a cursory read, but Chard (the former VP) listed “Assigned by God” as his personal pronoun, and (over simplified) that lead to his termination. I un

I only did a cursory read, but Chard (the former VP) listed “Assigned by God” as his personal pronoun, and (over simplified) that lead to his termination. I understand that Christianity has gone out of favor in the workplace, but it’ss odd that corporate policies for inclusion seem to still alienate Christian beliefs (I say that as a Heathen). Like having preferred pronouns in your email signature is valid, but listing you walk in the light of Christ would not fly.

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jleyank 3y ago
Is it so hard to segregate personal and work activities? Do the personal stuff, hobbies, religions, ... on your own time in your own place with your own group. When in the work environment, do work things and play well with others who probably aren't the people you'd prefer to be with. If their behaviour is that uncomfortable to you, you'll move on. Similarly, if your behaviour is that uncomfortable to them, you'll move on.
- Incipient 3y ago
  So no wearing crosses in the office? No praying towards Mecca, or wearing a headscarf, having a beard, eating spaghetti is pastafarian and cramming religion down my throat! Also plants and fish offend me, so I don't want to see them in the office. And population is anti-environment, so no photos of kids either. I think the only solution is to work on cubicles with separate entrances. Excuse the sarcasm, but having a small push back against mandatory pronouns and being fired is just another step to a really damn bland office environment.
  - jleyank 3y ago
    Crosses are fine, just don’t badger people about crossism. Same with meccaism, scarfism, beardism and spagism. Do it, don’t badger or bother people about it. We get you’re into those things and we’ll return the favour and let you do them in peace. Although I should point out that there are hard rules in Quebec that govern some of these behaviours in a rather discriminatory way.
- version_five 3y ago
  I agree with you that's an option, but then it should go for "pronouns" and other identity stuff too then. Why should certain things get a pass? As it stands now, there's all this "bring your whole self to work" nonsense, but it really means "as long as your whole self conforms utterly to an extremely narrow set of dimensions along which you can pretend to be nonconforming". Either accept differences of opinion and don't hassle people for not actively prostrating themselves on the alter of your religion, or keep personal life out of work entirely.
r00fus 3y ago
Christianity is the biggest religion in the country. It’s not “out of favor”. If this guy wants to protest “pronouns” then he could leave them blank. To actively antagonize management decisions is career limiting behavior.
- thatguymike 3y ago
  The article implies he was pressured not to leave his pronouns blank, so his move was a petty escalation.
  - infamouscow 3y ago
    The VP added pronouns in good faith, but was unceremoniously terminated when management didn't like the ones the VP believes are accurate.
- david38 3y ago
  He tried that, if you had read the article
belltaco 3y ago
> Like having preferred pronouns in your email signature is valid, but listing you walk in the light of Christ would not fly That's false equivalence. Listing you don't believe in God or insults against religion are also not valid in email signatures. Pronouns are valid because you may need to refer to them in the third person.

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jleyank 3y ago

Is it so hard to segregate personal and work activities? Do the personal stuff, hobbies, religions, ... on your own time in your own place with your own group. When in the work environment, do work things and play well with others who probably aren't the people you'd prefer to be with. If their behaviour is that uncomfortable to you, you'll move on. Similarly, if your behaviour is that uncomfortable to them, you'll move on.

Incipient 3y ago
So no wearing crosses in the office? No praying towards Mecca, or wearing a headscarf, having a beard, eating spaghetti is pastafarian and cramming religion down my throat! Also plants and fish offend me, so I don't want to see them in the office. And population is anti-environment, so no photos of kids either. I think the only solution is to work on cubicles with separate entrances. Excuse the sarcasm, but having a small push back against mandatory pronouns and being fired is just another step to a really damn bland office environment.
- jleyank 3y ago
  Crosses are fine, just don’t badger people about crossism. Same with meccaism, scarfism, beardism and spagism. Do it, don’t badger or bother people about it. We get you’re into those things and we’ll return the favour and let you do them in peace. Although I should point out that there are hard rules in Quebec that govern some of these behaviours in a rather discriminatory way.
version_five 3y ago
I agree with you that's an option, but then it should go for "pronouns" and other identity stuff too then. Why should certain things get a pass? As it stands now, there's all this "bring your whole self to work" nonsense, but it really means "as long as your whole self conforms utterly to an extremely narrow set of dimensions along which you can pretend to be nonconforming". Either accept differences of opinion and don't hassle people for not actively prostrating themselves on the alter of your religion, or keep personal life out of work entirely.

r00fus 3y ago

Christianity is the biggest religion in the country. It’s not “out of favor”. If this guy wants to protest “pronouns” then he could leave them blank. To actively antagonize management decisions is career limiting behavior.

thatguymike 3y ago
The article implies he was pressured not to leave his pronouns blank, so his move was a petty escalation.
- infamouscow 3y ago
  The VP added pronouns in good faith, but was unceremoniously terminated when management didn't like the ones the VP believes are accurate.
david38 3y ago
He tried that, if you had read the article

belltaco 3y ago

> Like having preferred pronouns in your email signature is valid, but listing you walk in the light of Christ would not fly That's false equivalence. Listing you don't believe in God or insults against religion are also not valid in email signatures. Pronouns are valid because you may need to refer to them in the third person.