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> Wider and wider monitors that are higher and higher resolution, so the bottom left gets farther and smaller from the eyes. Nevermind multi-monitor setups. Th

> Wider and wider monitors that are higher and higher resolution, so the bottom left gets farther and smaller from the eyes. Nevermind multi-monitor setups. This is easily solved by having a 'bottom left' for every screen, something I wish Windows offered natively. OpenShell does, and I've configured my awesomewm instance to do so. It still makes the most sense to me and is the way I'm most productive. > Text requires translation/localization, which is extra work, which is extra cost. Pick a generic, ideally universal icon and it's once-and-done. Also, not everyone can or will read. Text is necessary to distinguish instances of open applications. Not having the ability to do that decreases productivity. I would think the amount of computer users unable to read text is an extreme minority, and I'm counting people using accessibility options to read text when I say that.

TheCoreh 3y ago
macOS doesn't really have multiple instances of running applications. Apps have a single instance with multiple windows, and the mechanism for managing windows and open apps is separate. A lot of Windows applications now also behave like that behind-the-scenes, though that isn't the default behavior and requires some cross-process signaling.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > macOS doesn't really have multiple instances of running applications. So if I wanted to start multiple instances of TeXStudio, I'm unable to do so? I don't use a mac often, but when I have and I've put on less common programs that do have multiple instances, they have worked fine.
  - rifty 3y ago
    You can launch new instances from the terminal with open -n -a <Application> If you want you can also launch a new instance using sudo to get root privileges in them as well.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      So then it is possible, which again means I need text to tell them apart instead of just an icon.
      - rifty 3y ago
        Yeah as far as I know to change the name of the launching app you would have to duplicate the app bundle and rename it. But if you go that far you could also change the icon as well.
      - TheCoreh 3y ago
        It's _technically possible_ but nobody does it, it's mostly available as an escape hatch to debug applications and run things as other users.
  - kitsunesoba 3y ago
    You'd open a new window within the currently running TeXStudio process with File > New (Window|Document). Some apps also let you open new windows through the context menu of their Dock icons. You can force a new process by launching through the Terminal but this is not frequently done.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      The program takes a parameter to open a new instance "--start-always', this is needed to load a different session. No idea if that is needed on mac or if a new 'window' would suffice. Either way I need text to tell my instances, or windows apart.
Dalewyn 3y ago
>I would think the amount of computer users unable to read text is an extreme minority Can they read? Probably yes. Will they read? Probably not. Incidentally, you demonstrated my point almost perfectly: Not everyone can or will read.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > Can they read? Probably yes. Will they read? Probably not. If they don't want to read, as opposed to being unable to read, they are irrelevant to the point being made. > Incidentally, you demonstrated my point almost perfectly I read your point, I just disagreed with it. Still do.
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    I said that not everyone can or will read. This is the third time I repeat this, actually. You didn't read, neither the first nor second time, which demonstrated my point perfectly. Text is meaningless when people will not read. Ask any programmer or customer service monkey demanding to know what error message a user is running across. Most people will not read, even when demanded to read what is on the screen word for word. "I get an error." "What is the error?" "I see an error." "What does the error say?" "It's an error, fix it!" A lot of computer people don't like how Windows BSODs became more cryptic and meaningless ("simplified"), but this is simply because nobody reads them. Likewise Windows Update changelogs, nobody reads them. I don't necessarily agree with the trend of removing text from everything, I find text much more descriptive than cryptic monotone hieroglyphs. But I can understand and respect why the computing world is trending this way: Text is expensive to make and maintain, and not everyone appreciates them.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      > I said that not everyone can or will read. This is the third time I repeat this, actually. You didn't read, neither the first nor second time, which demonstrated my point perfectly. Once again I did read your point, I simply disagree, and still do. Ironically it's only you who doesn't seem to be reading here. If you're going to continue to insist that isn't the case, then there really isn't any point in trying to have a discussion with you since you can't do the bare minimum and assume good faith.

TheCoreh 3y ago

macOS doesn't really have multiple instances of running applications. Apps have a single instance with multiple windows, and the mechanism for managing windows and open apps is separate. A lot of Windows applications now also behave like that behind-the-scenes, though that isn't the default behavior and requires some cross-process signaling.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> macOS doesn't really have multiple instances of running applications. So if I wanted to start multiple instances of TeXStudio, I'm unable to do so? I don't use a mac often, but when I have and I've put on less common programs that do have multiple instances, they have worked fine.
- rifty 3y ago
  You can launch new instances from the terminal with open -n -a <Application> If you want you can also launch a new instance using sudo to get root privileges in them as well.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    So then it is possible, which again means I need text to tell them apart instead of just an icon.
    - rifty 3y ago
      Yeah as far as I know to change the name of the launching app you would have to duplicate the app bundle and rename it. But if you go that far you could also change the icon as well.
    - TheCoreh 3y ago
      It's _technically possible_ but nobody does it, it's mostly available as an escape hatch to debug applications and run things as other users.
- kitsunesoba 3y ago
  You'd open a new window within the currently running TeXStudio process with File > New (Window|Document). Some apps also let you open new windows through the context menu of their Dock icons. You can force a new process by launching through the Terminal but this is not frequently done.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    The program takes a parameter to open a new instance "--start-always', this is needed to load a different session. No idea if that is needed on mac or if a new 'window' would suffice. Either way I need text to tell my instances, or windows apart.

Dalewyn 3y ago

>I would think the amount of computer users unable to read text is an extreme minority Can they read? Probably yes. Will they read? Probably not. Incidentally, you demonstrated my point almost perfectly: Not everyone can or will read.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> Can they read? Probably yes. Will they read? Probably not. If they don't want to read, as opposed to being unable to read, they are irrelevant to the point being made. > Incidentally, you demonstrated my point almost perfectly I read your point, I just disagreed with it. Still do.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  I said that not everyone can or will read. This is the third time I repeat this, actually. You didn't read, neither the first nor second time, which demonstrated my point perfectly. Text is meaningless when people will not read. Ask any programmer or customer service monkey demanding to know what error message a user is running across. Most people will not read, even when demanded to read what is on the screen word for word. "I get an error." "What is the error?" "I see an error." "What does the error say?" "It's an error, fix it!" A lot of computer people don't like how Windows BSODs became more cryptic and meaningless ("simplified"), but this is simply because nobody reads them. Likewise Windows Update changelogs, nobody reads them. I don't necessarily agree with the trend of removing text from everything, I find text much more descriptive than cryptic monotone hieroglyphs. But I can understand and respect why the computing world is trending this way: Text is expensive to make and maintain, and not everyone appreciates them.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    > I said that not everyone can or will read. This is the third time I repeat this, actually. You didn't read, neither the first nor second time, which demonstrated my point perfectly. Once again I did read your point, I simply disagree, and still do. Ironically it's only you who doesn't seem to be reading here. If you're going to continue to insist that isn't the case, then there really isn't any point in trying to have a discussion with you since you can't do the bare minimum and assume good faith.