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I have a Model 3 in Europe with the so-called FSD, and it’s mostly terrible. I regret paying for it. The car often doesn’t understand even speed limit signs, so
by pavlov 3y ago
I have a Model 3 in Europe with the so-called FSD, and it’s mostly terrible. I regret paying for it. The car often doesn’t understand even speed limit signs, so it fails at the bare minimum of safety.
Recently I visited LA and a friend gave me a drive in their Model 3. The difference in sensor interpretation quality was massive compared to what I see back home. That gave me hope of my aging Model 3 still seeing improvements… But also a nagging suspicion that Tesla may have spent a lot of manual effort on data labeling and heuristics for LA roads specifically, and the results may not be easily scalable elsewhere.
- omgwtfbyobbq 3y agoIt will likely take a while because there is a difference. I'm not sure if it's manual effort or just having more data in certain regions. When I first got into the beta, it wasn't great, but has improved significantly since then.
- chroma 3y agoThe difference in FSD behavior is due to the EU’s laws on autonomous vehicles. The EU mandates maximum lateral acceleration, lane change times, and many other details that make for a worse (and less safe) driving experience.
- BonoboIO 3y agoCould you explain why the limits make the experience less safe. Less lateral acceleration should mean more safety, or I m wrong?
- ifdefdebug 3y agoNow why would the EU mandate details that make for a less safe driving? You are implying they are either malicious or stunningly incompetent.
- 221qqwe 3y ago> stunningly incompetent Not stunningly, just moderately. But generally yes, that's a good description for EU bureaucrats.
- worik 3y ago>> stunningly incompetent > Not stunningly, just moderately. But generally yes, that's a good description for EU bureaucrats. I disagree. Wordy, worthy, self interested, rule fetish... All of that. But not incompetent like this. Teslas being optimised for L.A. makes more sense in this case. Unusually it looks to me like conspiracy rather than cock up.
- smabie 3y agoGovernment stunningly incompetent? Who would have thought..
- kiratp 3y agohttps://electrek.co/2019/05/17/tesla-nerfs-autopilot-europe-regulations/ https://electrek.co/2019/05/17/tesla-nerfs-autopilot-europe-...
- bhauer 3y ago> Model 3 in Europe with the so-called FSD No Teslas in Europe offer the FSD Beta program. If you have purchased the "FSD capability," your car should be upgraded to include FSD Beta (or "release") at some point in the future. In the meantime, what you have is essentially Enhanced Autopilot with some bonus features like automatic lane changing on freeways.