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> US supported Maidan coup. What a load of bollocks. The Ukrainian people made a choice to topple their corrupt government and take control of their countries

> US supported Maidan coup. What a load of bollocks. The Ukrainian people made a choice to topple their corrupt government and take control of their countries destiny. Which is an inalienable right.

lenkite 3y ago
Yeah, with a truckload of support and sponsorship from Victoria Nuland - the shining [Coup Lady] of the US state department - who also picked the post coup leaders. She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well - gleefully cheering on when Gadaffi and his grandsons were killed one by one by NATO forces. "What a load of bollocks." Keep sticking your head into the sand.
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > Yeah, with a truckload of support and sponsorship from Victoria Nuland - the shining [Coup Lady] of the US state department - who also picked the post coup leaders. You got any evidence of this that doesn’t stink of Russian propaganda?.
  - hackandthink 3y ago
    This is about Nuland's interference: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-di...
    - CamperBob2 3y ago
      My favorite part was when Victoria Nuland poisoned Yuschenko with dioxin and turned him into an orange version of the Yellow Bastard from Sin City, years before orange skin became en vogue in American political circles. Also, there was that time when Nuland went on a hunting "vacation" in Donbas and bagged a Boeing, then hotfooted it across the Russian border with an innocent twinkle in her eye. And don't forget the time Nuland massacred dozens of protesters who objected to Yanukovych placing loyalty to Moscow over loyalty to his own country. That lady gets around.
      - hackandthink 3y ago
        Yes, it's a game. Who has the nastiest trick? Who liquidates more people? Who overthrows more regimes? ... sometimes Russia wins, sometimes the US wins I do not know much about Mrs. Nuland and do not care about her. But she seems to be a good player: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
- lisasays 3y ago
  She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well Your basic problem here is that you're confusing "trying to get involved" with "actually being involved and affecting events in a significant way". In short, the idea that Nuland's shenanigans did anything to move the needle on the ground is utter BS -- fodder for leftwing opinion websites in some Western countries, but not something that anybody in Ukraine takes seriously.
FreshStart 3y ago
All those "coups" were directly followed by elections, elections even the donbas participated and was thus represented in Ukraine assembly, until Russia waltzed on. And all the western civilization mimicry will not undo what happened on the ground. Russia is as shameless a imperial power in its day to day, as the US was at its darkest hours (Vietnam, Iraq)

> US supported Maidan coup. What a load of bollocks. The Ukrainian people made a choice to topple their corrupt government and take control of their countries destiny. Which is an inalienable right.

lenkite 3y ago

Yeah, with a truckload of support and sponsorship from Victoria Nuland - the shining [Coup Lady] of the US state department - who also picked the post coup leaders. She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well - gleefully cheering on when Gadaffi and his grandsons were killed one by one by NATO forces. "What a load of bollocks." Keep sticking your head into the sand.

_kbh_ 3y ago
> Yeah, with a truckload of support and sponsorship from Victoria Nuland - the shining [Coup Lady] of the US state department - who also picked the post coup leaders. You got any evidence of this that doesn’t stink of Russian propaganda?.
- hackandthink 3y ago
  This is about Nuland's interference: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-di...
  - CamperBob2 3y ago
    My favorite part was when Victoria Nuland poisoned Yuschenko with dioxin and turned him into an orange version of the Yellow Bastard from Sin City, years before orange skin became en vogue in American political circles. Also, there was that time when Nuland went on a hunting "vacation" in Donbas and bagged a Boeing, then hotfooted it across the Russian border with an innocent twinkle in her eye. And don't forget the time Nuland massacred dozens of protesters who objected to Yanukovych placing loyalty to Moscow over loyalty to his own country. That lady gets around.
    - hackandthink 3y ago
      Yes, it's a game. Who has the nastiest trick? Who liquidates more people? Who overthrows more regimes? ... sometimes Russia wins, sometimes the US wins I do not know much about Mrs. Nuland and do not care about her. But she seems to be a good player: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
lisasays 3y ago
She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well Your basic problem here is that you're confusing "trying to get involved" with "actually being involved and affecting events in a significant way". In short, the idea that Nuland's shenanigans did anything to move the needle on the ground is utter BS -- fodder for leftwing opinion websites in some Western countries, but not something that anybody in Ukraine takes seriously.

FreshStart 3y ago

All those "coups" were directly followed by elections, elections even the donbas participated and was thus represented in Ukraine assembly, until Russia waltzed on. And all the western civilization mimicry will not undo what happened on the ground. Russia is as shameless a imperial power in its day to day, as the US was at its darkest hours (Vietnam, Iraq)