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For comparison, Tesla FSD veering directly at a cyclist, who was saved only by the driver's lightning reflexes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wkENwrp_k http

For comparison, Tesla FSD veering directly at a cyclist, who was saved only by the driver's lightning reflexes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wkENwrp_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wkENwrp_k For comparison, Tesla FSD cruising right through a crossswalk with pedestrians and the driver is gleeful about it: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/teslas-full-self-driving-sees-pedestrian-chooses-not-to-slow-down/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/teslas-full-self-drivin... For comparison, Tesla FSD veering into oncoming traffic https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/128zncy/fsd_tesla_veers_on_to_oncoming_traffic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/128zncy/fsd_te... I remember seeing a video where Tesla FSD veered right at an island/telephone pole. Another where it veered at a crowd of pedestrians on the corner of a signalized intersection waiting to cross. A reminder that the software has been buggy for years and Tesla is somehow being allowed to "beta test" it in public among people who did not consent to the risk.

jeroenhd 3y ago
As a counter point: these Tesla videos are much more common because there are more Teslas driving around with the feature enabled. We don't know of the Mercedes is as much of a murder machine based on the little material from their FSD system there is. All self driving car manufacturers have videos of their cars doing the most ridiculous things. It's hard to pick one above the other. At least Mercedes seems to have documented their limitations rather than assumed their system works everywhere, so that's a good sign to me.
- justapassenger 3y ago
  Yes, we don’t know if Mercedes is a murder machine. What we know, is that if Mercedes murders someone, they’ll take liability for it. Tesla will meanwhile smear you in the media for abuse of the system, that they actively promote as superior.
iknowstuff 3y ago
Because ultimately there hasn’t been a single publicized death or injury resulting from FSD Beta, while it only took a few months for a professional tester of Uber’s SDC effort to kill someone. So maybe it makes sense to test with millions of people for a few minutes a day instead of 8 hours a day with a few hired testers. The media would sure jump on such tesla headlines.

jeroenhd 3y ago

As a counter point: these Tesla videos are much more common because there are more Teslas driving around with the feature enabled. We don't know of the Mercedes is as much of a murder machine based on the little material from their FSD system there is. All self driving car manufacturers have videos of their cars doing the most ridiculous things. It's hard to pick one above the other. At least Mercedes seems to have documented their limitations rather than assumed their system works everywhere, so that's a good sign to me.

justapassenger 3y ago
Yes, we don’t know if Mercedes is a murder machine. What we know, is that if Mercedes murders someone, they’ll take liability for it. Tesla will meanwhile smear you in the media for abuse of the system, that they actively promote as superior.

iknowstuff 3y ago

Because ultimately there hasn’t been a single publicized death or injury resulting from FSD Beta, while it only took a few months for a professional tester of Uber’s SDC effort to kill someone. So maybe it makes sense to test with millions of people for a few minutes a day instead of 8 hours a day with a few hired testers. The media would sure jump on such tesla headlines.