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>ludicrous amount of power and cooling >big honking machines Buy an all-in-one water cooler for the CPU https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-

by tehnub 3y ago

>ludicrous amount of power and cooling >big honking machines Buy an all-in-one water cooler for the CPU https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freeze... It's easy to install and you have a quiet, well-cooled CPU.

kitsunesoba 3y ago
AIOs aren't a great option for users who want to set it and forget it. Even the best ones lose fluid to sublimation and/or start leaking after a few years, which is why there's still a market for coolers like the NH-D15.
- tehnub 3y ago
  They won't last forever but Arctic does have a six year warranty https://www.arctic.de/us/blog/extended-warranty-period-for-all-liquid-freezer-ii-coolers https://www.arctic.de/us/blog/extended-warranty-period-for-a...
- sgtnoodle 3y ago
  I went with the NH-D15 when I built my 5950x desktop. I've never fiddled with liquid cooling, and having to locate a radiator seemed like a pain. I very much hope not to need to touch it again for a decade. After tweaking the fan profile, it's silent most of the time. Of course, it does make it kind of a pain to remove my GPU because it's so bulky; I need to use a shim to reach the PCI-E latch.
  - kitsunesoba 3y ago
    > I need to use a shim to reach the PCI-E latch. Similar here, there's not much room left when you've got a NH-D15 and EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 installed. This is more of an inadequacy on the part of motherboard manufacturers, though. PCI-E latches don't have to be terrible… look at the system Apple uses in their 2019 and 2023 Mac Pro towers for example which remain accessible regardless of what you have installed.
  - ilyt 3y ago
    My 120W 7800X3D only managed to heat that monster to 70C. I should probably bump the thermal profile to spin to max only around 80C...
    - wtallis 3y ago
      How much did you have to crank up the voltages on the 7800X3D to get it to 120W? I can't get mine much past 85W at stock voltage and clocks, even with the memory running at DDR5-6000.
      - ilyt 3y ago
        Entirely stock, not even EXPO overclocking. I saw that during shaders compile in RPCX3, pretty hard to see it otherwise.
- Kirby64 3y ago
  Citation needed. "The best" AIO coolers shouldn't have issues with fluid lose in a meaningful way that impacts performance. Likewise, I'm not aware of any widescale issues with AIOs leaking. This seems like just as much of a problem as regular CPU coolers that need to have dust removed (i.e., not a problem).

by tehnub 3y ago

kitsunesoba 3y ago

AIOs aren't a great option for users who want to set it and forget it. Even the best ones lose fluid to sublimation and/or start leaking after a few years, which is why there's still a market for coolers like the NH-D15.

tehnub 3y ago
They won't last forever but Arctic does have a six year warranty https://www.arctic.de/us/blog/extended-warranty-period-for-all-liquid-freezer-ii-coolers https://www.arctic.de/us/blog/extended-warranty-period-for-a...
sgtnoodle 3y ago
I went with the NH-D15 when I built my 5950x desktop. I've never fiddled with liquid cooling, and having to locate a radiator seemed like a pain. I very much hope not to need to touch it again for a decade. After tweaking the fan profile, it's silent most of the time. Of course, it does make it kind of a pain to remove my GPU because it's so bulky; I need to use a shim to reach the PCI-E latch.
- kitsunesoba 3y ago
  > I need to use a shim to reach the PCI-E latch. Similar here, there's not much room left when you've got a NH-D15 and EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 installed. This is more of an inadequacy on the part of motherboard manufacturers, though. PCI-E latches don't have to be terrible… look at the system Apple uses in their 2019 and 2023 Mac Pro towers for example which remain accessible regardless of what you have installed.
- ilyt 3y ago
  My 120W 7800X3D only managed to heat that monster to 70C. I should probably bump the thermal profile to spin to max only around 80C...
  - wtallis 3y ago
    How much did you have to crank up the voltages on the 7800X3D to get it to 120W? I can't get mine much past 85W at stock voltage and clocks, even with the memory running at DDR5-6000.
    - ilyt 3y ago
      Entirely stock, not even EXPO overclocking. I saw that during shaders compile in RPCX3, pretty hard to see it otherwise.
Kirby64 3y ago
Citation needed. "The best" AIO coolers shouldn't have issues with fluid lose in a meaningful way that impacts performance. Likewise, I'm not aware of any widescale issues with AIOs leaking. This seems like just as much of a problem as regular CPU coolers that need to have dust removed (i.e., not a problem).