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How does that not matter on a fair comparison? It's a no brainer anyway to get more performance from desktop and non apple much cheaper due to apples pricing.

by Demmme 3y ago

How does that not matter on a fair comparison? It's a no brainer anyway to get more performance from desktop and non apple much cheaper due to apples pricing. Apple has a huge advantage price / performance wise with the cheap m based Mac book air. The comparison with a Mac book pro which costs 2-3k is slightly less so.

zamalek 3y ago
> Apple has a huge advantage price / performance wise My 7950x machine cost, excluding the enthusiast GPU, $3000. That's less than half the cost of the M2 Ultra.
- brailsafe 3y ago
  You spent $3000 before gpu on a custom PC!?
  - zamalek 3y ago
    It was the height of the pandemic and shortages. I guess it could be a lot cheaper today.
  - sgtnoodle 3y ago
    $350 motherboard, $800 CPU, $200 RAM, $150 NVME, $100 cooler, $150 PSU, $200 case. $1750 + CA tax is about $1900. You could easily add another $1K by going crazy with RAM and NVME storage.
    - brailsafe 3y ago
      $2000 I could see, but I do think more people are overspending on CPU for gaming PCs by probably double. Maybe not overspending if you're getting a tangible productive value out of it, but I suppose they didn't specify gaming. For gaming specifically I'd probably try and balance the useful GPU power I need with the minimum necessary CPU to prevent bottlenecking. Part of the reason I haven't upgraded my intel macbook pro, is just because I think the cost all-in seems outrageous, even for someone who exclusively works on mac. I can't rationalize $500/16gb of ram or w/e. I haven't upgraded my gaming PC much, because the cost of GPUs very quickly overwhelms the performance improvement I'd get value out of compared to my severely out of date gear that I found by the roadside.
- rched 3y ago
  This article strangely cites the cost of the Mac Pro with M2 Ultra. You can get the same M2 Ultra in a Mac Studio starting at $4000.
- masswerk 3y ago
  Mind the second part of the quote, > Apple has a huge advantage price / performance wise with the cheap m based Mac book air. The MBA is in the US $999 with M1 and $1099 with M2. (You can get them even at about $800 in sales.) This is an entirely different segment.

by Demmme 3y ago

zamalek 3y ago

> Apple has a huge advantage price / performance wise My 7950x machine cost, excluding the enthusiast GPU, $3000. That's less than half the cost of the M2 Ultra.

brailsafe 3y ago
You spent $3000 before gpu on a custom PC!?
- zamalek 3y ago
  It was the height of the pandemic and shortages. I guess it could be a lot cheaper today.
- sgtnoodle 3y ago
  $350 motherboard, $800 CPU, $200 RAM, $150 NVME, $100 cooler, $150 PSU, $200 case. $1750 + CA tax is about $1900. You could easily add another $1K by going crazy with RAM and NVME storage.
  - brailsafe 3y ago
    $2000 I could see, but I do think more people are overspending on CPU for gaming PCs by probably double. Maybe not overspending if you're getting a tangible productive value out of it, but I suppose they didn't specify gaming. For gaming specifically I'd probably try and balance the useful GPU power I need with the minimum necessary CPU to prevent bottlenecking. Part of the reason I haven't upgraded my intel macbook pro, is just because I think the cost all-in seems outrageous, even for someone who exclusively works on mac. I can't rationalize $500/16gb of ram or w/e. I haven't upgraded my gaming PC much, because the cost of GPUs very quickly overwhelms the performance improvement I'd get value out of compared to my severely out of date gear that I found by the roadside.
rched 3y ago
This article strangely cites the cost of the Mac Pro with M2 Ultra. You can get the same M2 Ultra in a Mac Studio starting at $4000.
masswerk 3y ago
Mind the second part of the quote, > Apple has a huge advantage price / performance wise with the cheap m based Mac book air. The MBA is in the US $999 with M1 and $1099 with M2. (You can get them even at about $800 in sales.) This is an entirely different segment.