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I dunno, there's always been a greybeard contingent here that's been in or around telecom or otherwise know about Operation Shamrock, Echelon, room 641A, and so

I dunno, there's always been a greybeard contingent here that's been in or around telecom or otherwise know about Operation Shamrock, Echelon, room 641A, and so on, before Snowden.

fnordfnordfnord 3y ago
Yeah and it was pretty common to be voted down and called a crank over it too.
- pessimizer 3y ago
  Hence, "greybeard." Even when people are talking about something that they know to be true, they ground themselves in derogatory stereotypes about the people who were right.
  - jerkstate 3y ago
    Do you consider “greybeard” to be a derogatory stereotype? I sure don’t..
    - 20after4 3y ago
      I've seen it used with either positive or negative connotations depending on the context.
WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
This is why I framed the question to see if there was a 'dominant vibe'. It sounds like there were voices in a position to best know but that they were a minority. I think I can infer that their education explanations didn't meaningfully change that dominant vibe.