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I used MusicGen yesterday to create 50 songs or so. Three of them sound pretty good [1][2][3]. MusicGen is definitely the best of four models of the presentatio

I used MusicGen yesterday to create 50 songs or so. Three of them sound pretty good [1][2][3]. MusicGen is definitely the best of four models of the presentation. I used the prompts differently than the article and i think i got better results. Suppose there is way to measure cardio beats or electricity spikes on the brain, and we configure the machine to generate music to increase cardio beats, or decrease them, or similarly increase electrical activity of the brain or decrease it. Then psychology might be deprecated, mood will be reduced to just a music channel. [1]https://soundcloud.com/kwstas-pramatias/lounge-owl https://soundcloud.com/kwstas-pramatias/lounge-owl [2]https://soundcloud.com/kwstas-pramatias/rock-glass-shattering https://soundcloud.com/kwstas-pramatias/rock-glass-shatterin... [3]https://soundcloud.com/kwstas-pramatias/rock-owl-howling https://soundcloud.com/kwstas-pramatias/rock-owl-howling

layer8 3y ago
Those three are pretty nice, but I’d say they are only a starting point, an inspiration, for creating a good song out of those themes. You are probably getting downvoted for your second paragraph which is a bit out there.
- emporas 3y ago
  Err, yeah maybe a little bit out there. Yes of course they are the starting point, a good musician may take some samples and transform a music generation to a better song for sure. Some artists state that a painting is never complete, or a song is never complete. There is always room for innovation. The prompts i used, referenced real songwriters, and the model seems to know their songs. The article does not prompt it that way. So i guess there may be a little bit of IP infringement, but we need that, only for the first bunch. Next models will be trained on the best generations of previous models.
  - pcthrowaway 3y ago
    > Some artists state that a painting is never complete, or a song is never complete Kind of like how the software is never complete :P
- Kiro 3y ago
  I upvoted it because of that second paragraph.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
People have tried this, they're called binaural beats, and they don't seem to work for the most part. I mean, not in the sense that you could engineer sound to invoke very specific effects in the brain consistently.
- emporas 3y ago
  I personally have more than 10 years experience on sitting in the cold all day long, with only summer clothes on. Like 0 to 5 Celsius, with only shorts on, not even socks. I am winter swimmer as well. I do that, because i can think a lot more clear in a cold environment, it is good for the brain. Granted in Greece there is not that much cold, maybe 1 or 2 months of 0-5 Celsius. That can be achieved by putting music on, which speeds up the heart pulse. Usually hard rock, metal, thrash metal etc. In that case, the body starts sweating a lot, not matter the temperature. I combine that, with 5 simple exercises i do all day long which are important as well. My point is that using music, someone can be in charge of his heart pulse. But my biggest complaint always was that these metal guys, are masters of the guitar, but other kinds of music have better taste in rhythm, in melody etc. Using programs like that we can evolve it a little bit, to be more pleasurable to listen. I know about about binaural beats, i have tried to listen to different hertz for hours on end, they don't work in my opinion. At least in my case.
- scns 3y ago
  Huberman cited a study proving the effect. Sorry, no link at hand.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
    There's a real effect, just nothing even remotely close to the actual fantastical claims being made about it. It's highly doubtful there's some sort of profound way to induce arbitrary brain states through audio input alone. I remember vividly that this was very hyped in some circles around 2005 or thereabout, with wild claims that listening to some strange white noise for twenty minutes could induce full-blown psychedelic trips even in people with no psychedelic experience. I even tried a bunch of em, and the only clear effect was a mild headache. And I was naïve enough to think it might work back then, and yet there wasn't even really a placebo effect.

layer8 3y ago

Those three are pretty nice, but I’d say they are only a starting point, an inspiration, for creating a good song out of those themes. You are probably getting downvoted for your second paragraph which is a bit out there.

emporas 3y ago
Err, yeah maybe a little bit out there. Yes of course they are the starting point, a good musician may take some samples and transform a music generation to a better song for sure. Some artists state that a painting is never complete, or a song is never complete. There is always room for innovation. The prompts i used, referenced real songwriters, and the model seems to know their songs. The article does not prompt it that way. So i guess there may be a little bit of IP infringement, but we need that, only for the first bunch. Next models will be trained on the best generations of previous models.
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  > Some artists state that a painting is never complete, or a song is never complete Kind of like how the software is never complete :P
Kiro 3y ago
I upvoted it because of that second paragraph.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago

People have tried this, they're called binaural beats, and they don't seem to work for the most part. I mean, not in the sense that you could engineer sound to invoke very specific effects in the brain consistently.

emporas 3y ago
I personally have more than 10 years experience on sitting in the cold all day long, with only summer clothes on. Like 0 to 5 Celsius, with only shorts on, not even socks. I am winter swimmer as well. I do that, because i can think a lot more clear in a cold environment, it is good for the brain. Granted in Greece there is not that much cold, maybe 1 or 2 months of 0-5 Celsius. That can be achieved by putting music on, which speeds up the heart pulse. Usually hard rock, metal, thrash metal etc. In that case, the body starts sweating a lot, not matter the temperature. I combine that, with 5 simple exercises i do all day long which are important as well. My point is that using music, someone can be in charge of his heart pulse. But my biggest complaint always was that these metal guys, are masters of the guitar, but other kinds of music have better taste in rhythm, in melody etc. Using programs like that we can evolve it a little bit, to be more pleasurable to listen. I know about about binaural beats, i have tried to listen to different hertz for hours on end, they don't work in my opinion. At least in my case.
scns 3y ago
Huberman cited a study proving the effect. Sorry, no link at hand.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
  There's a real effect, just nothing even remotely close to the actual fantastical claims being made about it. It's highly doubtful there's some sort of profound way to induce arbitrary brain states through audio input alone. I remember vividly that this was very hyped in some circles around 2005 or thereabout, with wild claims that listening to some strange white noise for twenty minutes could induce full-blown psychedelic trips even in people with no psychedelic experience. I even tried a bunch of em, and the only clear effect was a mild headache. And I was naïve enough to think it might work back then, and yet there wasn't even really a placebo effect.