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The media will report on this as the death of a terrorist. None of the real terrorists will be brought to justice - the CIA has done so many abhorrent things he
by local_crmdgeon 3y ago
The media will report on this as the death of a terrorist. None of the real terrorists will be brought to justice - the CIA has done so many abhorrent things here and abroad.
We act like the KGB/FSB is this unfathomable, foreign evil. We have the bigger, scarier thing that killed it in our backyard.
- next_xibalba 3y ago> real terrorists Did the CIA fabricate and mail the bombs?
- Sebguer 3y agoNo, but they've bombed a lot more innocent people than TedK did. For one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Lawrence_Pope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Lawrence_Pope
- local_crmdgeon 3y agoNo they broke him mentally with MKULtra
- anigbrowl 3y agoNot those specific bombs.
- adamrezich 3y agodid the CIA put crack in the hood?
- next_xibalba 3y agoNo. This has been pretty thoroughly refuted.
- adamrezich 3y agowho refuted it? other federal agencies? the crack just materialized on its own?
- ch4s3 3y agoThere was never any evidence to begin with. The author of the often cited investigative report even refutes the assertion that the CIA was involved. It’s pure fantasy.
- adamrezich 3y agoright, and then the guy who wrote the report later "killed himself" with two gunshots to the head.
- ch4s3 3y agoHis ex-wife and the LA county corner were pretty convinced that he did it himself. Why would the CIA kill him if he wasn’t point the finger at them?
- l33t233372 3y agoPeople shooting themselves in the head often reflexively pull the trigger twice. Do you suppose the elite hit squad that came to kill him simply added an extra bullet by mistake?
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- Tao3300 3y agoWhether or not the CIA was behind the psychological abuse he was subjected to, that it was made the bombmaker.
- Mechanical9 3y ago[flagged]
- local_crmdgeon 3y agoHe was an MKUltra victim, which was a CIA project
- Mechanical9 3y agoThere does not seem to be any evidence that corroborates this. The most I can find are claims that some records were destroyed, so we won't know. That doesn't automatically mean there is a connection, though.
- EdSharkey 3y agoThe volume of your n responses had me convinced until I saw you refuted n+1 times. I won't question your motives for sweating the unabomber. That said, if someone OTHER THAN YOU was paid by the post for posts akin to yours, and I was their boss, I would reassign that person to Reddit.
- krisoft 3y agoLet's unwrap this. It seems pretty uncontroversial that Kaczynski has participated in series of psychological experiments by Henry Murray. Do you accept this fact? It seems to be well supported via anecdotal evidence that these experiments were quite brutal and stressful, one might even call them torture. Do you agree with this? We know that the psychologist in question (Henry Murray) was associated with the Office of Strategic Services. Are you with me on this? We know that the Office of Strategic Services is the predecessor of the CIA. So what we know is that we have a researcher in the orbit of OSS/CIA who conducted brutal experiments on Kaczynski. So that is the connection you are looking for. We do not know if these experiments were part of the CIA program running under the codename MKUltra, or if they were part of some other CIA supported program under some other codename. > The most I can find are claims that some records were destroyed, so we won't know. You are making it sound like mice got to archived papers or the ink faded. But that is not the case. The CIA director ordered all documentation regarding MKUltra to be destroyed in 1973. That is it. Those papers would have told us for certain what is the truth. They made sure they are destroyed. As you say the fact that the documents were destroyed doesn't prove that Henry Murray's experiments were CIA backed. That would be crazy speak. But it is also not entirely fair to say that there is no connection whatsoever. In the absence of hard evidence we won't ever know for certain, but we can make reasonable inferences. If you disagree with anything I wrote in the above please be specific which part of it do you disagree with.
- boppo1 3y agoThe CIA has done some bad shit, even to their own citizens, but are they really on the level of the KGB? Seems like the KGB was a more overt daily-life terror, whereas the CIA has a more 'occasional' history of atrocities.
- EdSharkey 3y agoCIA is worldwide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies (AND THAT'S THE PUBLIC LIST) How many redlines they gotta cross and ops they gotta run before they rival the KGB for you?
- retrocryptid 3y agoAlways seemed to me the CIA were more creative: fish robot, sewing transmitters inside cats, arranging for their former director to die days before he was to give testimony. KGB and GRU were just "we're going to push you out the window" or "murder your family."
- localplume 3y ago[dead]
- varjag 3y agoThis is such an American thing to write that part of me almost wants to applaud.