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It's an artform so its natural for a composer to have the same reaction as a painter would to Stable Diffusion for example. That being said - it's happening, a
by esskay 3y ago
It's an artform so its natural for a composer to have the same reaction as a painter would to Stable Diffusion for example.
That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it regardless of which side of the fence people sit on.
- ddmichael 3y ago"That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it" Well, the European Union is already working on a legal framework for AI. It happened with GDPR and it will happen again.
- wilg 3y agoSure, but that's not going to stop it.
- electroly 3y agoGDPR has a severely muted effect because Americans are still doing the same things they were before. It'll be even more ineffectual for AI. Nearly all AI research you hear about is being done in the United States. European regulations will only stop Europeans from using it, but you won't be able to escape it anyway because of how much American culture is continuously imported into Europe. Meanwhile, the reverse is almost completely not true; very little European culture makes it into American culture. This will just kneecap European creators and companies. I wish Europe the best of luck with this.
- ddmichael 3y agoThat's implementation details. It could be the case that no art produced in the EU can be used as training data (or similar), not necessarily that EU AI models are forbidden from being trained on art. I find the former case the most probable.
- ddmichael 3y ago"very little European culture makes it into American culture" LOL, I love Americans and America but seriously? Like what is already there is not enough :D
- kriro 3y agoSince we are talking about music, maybe I'm living in a European bubble but last time I was in the U.S. people were listening to classical music (basically OG Euro music), Beatles, ABBA, Elton John or newer stuff like anything involving David Guetta whatever. Plenty of European music being listened to in my niche (metal) as well. Music knows no borders.
- tumult 3y agoYou make it sound like some force of nature is causing this to occur. These things exist because people are making them, despite there no longer being a healthy reason for doing so. (I’m not saying there’s reason for AI development in general to stop, but these generative things that are designed to slot neatly into the role of human artists specifically have no reason to be developed further beyond proving it was possible, and that happened a while ago.)
- BHSPitMonkey 3y agoHumans creating and sharing new technologies (and ideas, and works of art, etc.) across societies _is_ a force of nature.
- tumult 3y ago“Force of nature” generally means some phenomenon of physics or some natural disaster outside of human control, which is what I meant. “A big and powerful cool thing” is not what I meant, and not what force of nature usually means.
- popalchemist 3y agoLife is a force of nature. Evolution is a force of nature. The development of society (across species, not just human) is a force of nature. The development of technology is an aspect of that. In other words, macro-economic trends such as the development of automation ARE in fact an aspect of evolution, aka, a force of nature. Doesn't matter if that's not the sense in which the phrase is used, these things are arising out of the collective unconscious, not as the result of mere individual will.
- tumult 3y agoYou just made that up. That's not what the phrase "force of nature" means.
- arcanemachiner 3y ago