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> devices that apply by default some form of AI-based generative/corrective algorithms like the "AI detail enhancement engine" Isn't this a contradiction, thou

> devices that apply by default some form of AI-based generative/corrective algorithms like the "AI detail enhancement engine" Isn't this a contradiction, though? My understanding is that generative AI is created entirely from software, using a network of previously created images as input. A corrective filter modifies an image taken directly from a sensor instead. I personally don't mind aesthetic corrective modifications to photos. I was an astronomy observatory last night and learned that most of the magnificent images we've seen of distant nebulas and galaxies have post-production coloring applied, they mostly look black and white coming off the sensor. Does the coloring fundamentally change our understanding of what it is that we're looking at? I don't think so, and that's where I draw the line.

Imnimo 3y ago
>Artists, filmmakers, illustrators and photographers whom we commission and work with will be asked to confirm that none of the work they submit has been generated or augmented using generative AI "or augmented"
- golemotron 3y ago
  There's no hard line in the technology. This means that a ban is pointless because the landscape is going to keep changing. It's interesting to compare this to other situations where, say, law tries to create lines that aren't really there and the incentive to ignore imaginary ones is greater than the incentive to keep them. This seems to be a very common phenomenon with technology.
  - pxc 3y ago
    In the case of Nature, it functions as a statement of values that scientists publishing with Nature will be happy to comply with to the best of their abilities. I doubt that the editors are under some illusion that the nominal ban will create a hard line in reality. I'd be surprised to learn that that is their idea of success with this measure.
ghaff 3y ago
The context matters. There are image manipulations I might do to a photo I'm going to hang on the wall that wouldn't be kosher if I were shooting an event for a newspaper especially with respect to removing objects from the photo.
charcircuit 3y ago
Some generative AI tools let you input a base image to work off of. You can definitely use generative AI for just sharpening in these tools.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> My understanding is that generative AI is created entirely from software, using a network of previously created images as input. A corrective filter modifies an image taken directly from a sensor instead. Your understanding is incorrect, generative AI can modify an image taken from any source, as well as creating from scratch.

Imnimo 3y ago

>Artists, filmmakers, illustrators and photographers whom we commission and work with will be asked to confirm that none of the work they submit has been generated or augmented using generative AI "or augmented"

golemotron 3y ago
There's no hard line in the technology. This means that a ban is pointless because the landscape is going to keep changing. It's interesting to compare this to other situations where, say, law tries to create lines that aren't really there and the incentive to ignore imaginary ones is greater than the incentive to keep them. This seems to be a very common phenomenon with technology.
- pxc 3y ago
  In the case of Nature, it functions as a statement of values that scientists publishing with Nature will be happy to comply with to the best of their abilities. I doubt that the editors are under some illusion that the nominal ban will create a hard line in reality. I'd be surprised to learn that that is their idea of success with this measure.

ghaff 3y ago

The context matters. There are image manipulations I might do to a photo I'm going to hang on the wall that wouldn't be kosher if I were shooting an event for a newspaper especially with respect to removing objects from the photo.

charcircuit 3y ago

Some generative AI tools let you input a base image to work off of. You can definitely use generative AI for just sharpening in these tools.

dragonwriter 3y ago

> My understanding is that generative AI is created entirely from software, using a network of previously created images as input. A corrective filter modifies an image taken directly from a sensor instead. Your understanding is incorrect, generative AI can modify an image taken from any source, as well as creating from scratch.