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Do people really care about efficiency for plugged-in devices? There is the environmental factor, but there are people on 100% renewable a too...

by kayson 3y ago

acdha 3y ago
Even if your power is free, heat means a toasty office and fan noise, not to mention being careful about air flow around your furniture. Not a deal breaker but 100% of the Apple Silicon users I know have mentioned not previously having appreciated just how much noise their old systems made.
IneffablePigeon 3y ago
I bought an m series device to replace my windows desktop mostly for efficiency reasons. It saves me hundreds a year in electricity costs at the moment (quite literally, I calculated it beforehand and checked real usage afterwards). It also means my office is now silent and cool. It’s a big QoL improvement for me.
- tokamak-teapot 3y ago
  Similar story here. I replaced an AMD 3xxx series Hackintosh workstation with an M1 Air after running both together and finding they were exactly as fast as each other.
- menus 3y ago
  Was cost of the device also taken into consideration in your overall cost calculation? What was the cost of your Windows desktop and what was the cost of your M series device you replaced it with? Have you ever upgraded any components of your Windows desktop (RAM, GPU, CPU, motherboard) or did you discard the entire thing?
  - THENATHE 3y ago
    Realistically, assume you were going to upgrade anyway. $1200 PC vs $1500-$2000 MacBook is really only 300-800 difference, and MacBooks hold their value on the second hand market EXPONENTIALLY better than windows. So 3-8 years at 100$ a year, but also it’s worth 3x as much as the comparable PC in 5 years
    - menus 3y ago
      > Realistically, assume you were going to upgrade anyway. Realistically, you don't need to replace the entire thing. Replace mobo+CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, case as necessary. Laptop is a different story. Replacing a desktop with a laptop and then comparing them is not a fair comparison.
tokamak-teapot 3y ago
I do. I don’t like noise, or having my office heated in the summer, or the cost of hundreds of watts.
- danaris 3y ago
  Slightly ironic, coming from someone who claims to use a tokamak to heat a teapot!
willtemperley 3y ago
Yes. Especially in warm countries when it’ll add to your air con bill too

Do people really care about efficiency for plugged-in devices? There is the environmental factor, but there are people on 100% renewable a too...

by kayson 3y ago

Do people really care about efficiency for plugged-in devices? There is the environmental factor, but there are people on 100% renewable a too...

acdha 3y ago

Even if your power is free, heat means a toasty office and fan noise, not to mention being careful about air flow around your furniture. Not a deal breaker but 100% of the Apple Silicon users I know have mentioned not previously having appreciated just how much noise their old systems made.

IneffablePigeon 3y ago

I bought an m series device to replace my windows desktop mostly for efficiency reasons. It saves me hundreds a year in electricity costs at the moment (quite literally, I calculated it beforehand and checked real usage afterwards). It also means my office is now silent and cool. It’s a big QoL improvement for me.

tokamak-teapot 3y ago
Similar story here. I replaced an AMD 3xxx series Hackintosh workstation with an M1 Air after running both together and finding they were exactly as fast as each other.
menus 3y ago
Was cost of the device also taken into consideration in your overall cost calculation? What was the cost of your Windows desktop and what was the cost of your M series device you replaced it with? Have you ever upgraded any components of your Windows desktop (RAM, GPU, CPU, motherboard) or did you discard the entire thing?
- THENATHE 3y ago
  Realistically, assume you were going to upgrade anyway. $1200 PC vs $1500-$2000 MacBook is really only 300-800 difference, and MacBooks hold their value on the second hand market EXPONENTIALLY better than windows. So 3-8 years at 100$ a year, but also it’s worth 3x as much as the comparable PC in 5 years
  - menus 3y ago
    > Realistically, assume you were going to upgrade anyway. Realistically, you don't need to replace the entire thing. Replace mobo+CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, case as necessary. Laptop is a different story. Replacing a desktop with a laptop and then comparing them is not a fair comparison.

tokamak-teapot 3y ago

I do. I don’t like noise, or having my office heated in the summer, or the cost of hundreds of watts.

danaris 3y ago
Slightly ironic, coming from someone who claims to use a tokamak to heat a teapot!

willtemperley 3y ago

Yes. Especially in warm countries when it’ll add to your air con bill too