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The mood back then was that domestic spying didn’t exist. As in: Imagine the scale it requires, you’re stupid if you believe, what, that the NSA tapes all of o

The mood back then was that domestic spying didn’t exist. As in: Imagine the scale it requires, you’re stupid if you believe, what, that the NSA tapes all of our records?!? Put your tinfoil hat back.

jerkstate 3y ago
I dunno, there's always been a greybeard contingent here that's been in or around telecom or otherwise know about Operation Shamrock, Echelon, room 641A, and so on, before Snowden.
- fnordfnordfnord 3y ago
  Yeah and it was pretty common to be voted down and called a crank over it too.
  - pessimizer 3y ago
    Hence, "greybeard." Even when people are talking about something that they know to be true, they ground themselves in derogatory stereotypes about the people who were right.
    - jerkstate 3y ago
      Do you consider “greybeard” to be a derogatory stereotype? I sure don’t..
      - 20after4 3y ago
        I've seen it used with either positive or negative connotations depending on the context.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
  This is why I framed the question to see if there was a 'dominant vibe'. It sounds like there were voices in a position to best know but that they were a minority. I think I can infer that their education explanations didn't meaningfully change that dominant vibe.