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Team America was satirizing a specific moment in history, where they used fear of 9/11 to support an unjust war. That moment has passed. We may be vulnerable to
by asveikau 3y ago
Team America was satirizing a specific moment in history, where they used fear of 9/11 to support an unjust war. That moment has passed. We may be vulnerable to that kind of crap again, but I don't see it right now.
- xbar 3y agoI am not sure. I feel more surveilled than I thought would ever be possible. My car watches me in my own garage, and the FBI can pull that data without telling me, without a warrant, just to learn my impressive laundry habits (I'll skip you the trouble, FBI: I use Gain and Downy and Borax, always on cold, tumble dry low).
- asveikau 3y agoAnd how is that related to using freedom as a reason to invade a sovereign state and suppress opinions not in favor?
- colpabar 3y agoSure, but to be fair, how many 9/11’s have happened since the first one?
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago9/11 was the extreme statistical anomaly. US Citizens have been historically safe from domestic terrorism for 50 years. ref: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/16/eight-facts-about-terrorism-in-the-united-states/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/16/eight... (2013 but the numbers are about the same. Odds of dying in a domestic terror attack vary between 1:12000000 & 1:40000000 or the same as picking the correct inch between DC and NYC). It is interesting this period of safety coincided with the release of the Pentagon Papers and the Church Committee that followed. One result of which was forcing the FBI away from domestic surveillance and refocusing it into a law enforcement mission. This lasted for about 40 years (after which the FBI officially abandoned it's LEO mission to pursue the power that comes with NatSec operations).
- monocasa 3y agoHow many have been attempted since then?
- drewcoo 3y agoThey happen annually.
- colpabar 3y agolol, you got me
- HWR_14 3y agoThe FBI never needed a warrant to get information you give to companies freely. That's why they never needed a warrant for phone records. You have rights to protect your data, but you (and Tesla, et al) don't have rights or legal responsibilities to protect data you collect on others.
- justinclift 3y agoNo. Team America was satirizing the general US approach of trampling over all other countries in the name of "The American Way". That's not really changed.
- asveikau 3y agoNot really. I haven't seen the thing since 2004. But I thought it was pretty dumb and ironically very US centric in its treatment of these topics. It wasn't a deep criticism. It also at the same time mocked celebrities for being against the war. For the record I was very vehemently against the Iraq war from day one.
- 20after4 3y agoMaybe you missed the deeper satirical message.
- asveikau 3y agoOr maybe it was a shitty movie. There's lots one could say about US foreign policy, but that was 90 minutes of fart jokes. It's weird what people try to venerate sometimes.
- justinclift 3y agoLots of people seemed to have really liked it. As an example, when I was staying at a backpacking hostel in Perth, Australia many years ago the entire lounge area was packed out by people (during the day!) when it was being shown. That was ~70 people, many of them who were walking by initially but saw it on and stuck around to watch it. In that backpacking hostel, there'd not been anywhere close to that number of people watching any other movie. So, there was definitely some kind of interest by people. :)