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"Slow and steady" better than "move fast and break things"? :-)

• seydor 3y ago
  break people
• ajross 3y ago
  Define better? A Tesla will do exactly the same thing[1] and just nag you every few minutes to tug on the steering wheel (those nags are getting rarer every release as the driver monitoring camera improves, FWIW). The Mercedes driver can have their hands doing other things, but still needs their eyes out of the cockpit because the second traffic speeds up to 40mph they need to take over. In practice, this is "Level 3", but only within an ephemeral subset of driving conditions that aren't going to be consistent enough for you actually exploit that autonomy. [1] Actually much more, obviously, but it at least does this.
  • zaroth 3y ago
    People forget the status quo is millions of deaths and trillions in property and economic damages. Moving slow condemns millions more to die.
    • qwytw 3y ago
      Those millions (especially in developed countries where the per capita number of accidents is highest) won't be able to buy Teslas anyway. Statically you could decrease the number of deaths by 20-30% by just banning cars older than 10 years. There are some other (cheaper) things that can be done as well.
• HDThoreaun 3y ago
  40k+ people die per year in car accidents in the US alone. I would say "move fast and break less things" is better.
  • waffleiron 3y ago
    We can get that to 60k!
  • oblio 3y ago
    You know how you could REALLY fix that? 1. Actual car checks everywhere. I've seen some crazy cars in the US that would be impounded ASAP in most of Europe. 2. Add pedestrian safety requirements for new cars, which would practically ban tall cars (trucks and SUVs) except for professional use. 3. Something for smartphones, not really sure about the best attack angle. This "might not ever happen" self driving shtick is just moving the goalpost into the middle of nowhere.
  • pms 3y ago
    You're fooling yourself to think that Tesla is the solution. First, most of the fatalities are in cars that cost much much less than Tesla. Their owners will never afford a Tesla. Second, the only realistic way to prevent some of these deaths is to empower public transport, the way it's done in Europe. Third, although that's the least important point, Tesla statistics of miles driven between crashes are biased, because they turn off autopilot before crashes [1]. Please be careful not to conflate the goals of capitalism with the goals of technology and science. [1] PDF https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF
    • HDThoreaun 3y ago
      > Second, the only realistic way to prevent some of these deaths is to empower public transport I'm the one fooling myself?
    • HDThoreaun 3y ago
      > Second, the only realistic way to prevent some of these deaths is to empower public transport I'm the one fooling myself? That's in no way realistic