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Do you recommend switching from Ubuntu TLS to this one? Even to a heavy LXC and multipass user? What had kept me on Ubuntu so far has been their out of box lap

Do you recommend switching from Ubuntu TLS to this one? Even to a heavy LXC and multipass user? What had kept me on Ubuntu so far has been their out of box laptop support (I.e. WiFi drivers).

marcrosoft 3y ago
I switched away from Ubuntu when they started putting advertisements in the motd and login screens.
- kramerger 3y ago
  That didn't bother me much as it is "advertisement" about things related to my system. What I did not like was Firefox taking 20s to start.
  - marcrosoft 3y ago
    No I’m not talking about useful things like last login, average cpu, etc. they were advertising their cloud products.
  - themoonisachees 3y ago
    Ubuntu has (used to at least) ads as apps in the app launcher, served by canonical and not at all related to the software you're using.
28304283409234 3y ago
Moved back to Debian because of lxc on Ubuntu requiring snaps. Turns out same problem on Debian. Snapd consumes 100% cpu. All. The. Time. Hoping Bookworm will solve it. Else I will be moving to Archlinux, which has lxc without snapd.
- yokem55 3y ago
  Bookworm now has lxd as natively packaged deb's in the main repository. It's very nice to setup.
- yrro 3y ago
  I don't think lxc on Debian has ever needed snapd? https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/lxc https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/lxc
  - aragilar 3y ago
    They're probably running lxd (which is only packaged for snap as far as I know), lxd is controlled by the "lxc" command (which isn't part of lxc...).
    - yrro 3y ago
      Ah. This questionable decision is why I abandoned LXC for Docker (initially) and eventually Podman/k8s.
  - sm1ch 3y ago
    lxd (not just lxc) is now also available as a deb package in debian: https://wiki.debian.org/LXD https://wiki.debian.org/LXD https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768073 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768073
- aragilar 3y ago
  The "lxc" command runs lxd, you need to run "lxc-'command'" for actual lxc.
- CoolCold 3y ago
  Interesting - I don't observe such behavior with snap/lxd on my Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04 boxes. Not a heavy user though - maximum 15-20 VEs (virtual enforcements) per server.

Do you recommend switching from Ubuntu TLS to this one? Even to a heavy LXC and multipass user? What had kept me on Ubuntu so far has been their out of box laptop support (I.e. WiFi drivers).

marcrosoft 3y ago

I switched away from Ubuntu when they started putting advertisements in the motd and login screens.

kramerger 3y ago
That didn't bother me much as it is "advertisement" about things related to my system. What I did not like was Firefox taking 20s to start.
- marcrosoft 3y ago
  No I’m not talking about useful things like last login, average cpu, etc. they were advertising their cloud products.
- themoonisachees 3y ago
  Ubuntu has (used to at least) ads as apps in the app launcher, served by canonical and not at all related to the software you're using.

28304283409234 3y ago

Moved back to Debian because of lxc on Ubuntu requiring snaps. Turns out same problem on Debian. Snapd consumes 100% cpu. All. The. Time. Hoping Bookworm will solve it. Else I will be moving to Archlinux, which has lxc without snapd.

yokem55 3y ago
Bookworm now has lxd as natively packaged deb's in the main repository. It's very nice to setup.
yrro 3y ago
I don't think lxc on Debian has ever needed snapd? https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/lxc https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/lxc
- aragilar 3y ago
  They're probably running lxd (which is only packaged for snap as far as I know), lxd is controlled by the "lxc" command (which isn't part of lxc...).
  - yrro 3y ago
    Ah. This questionable decision is why I abandoned LXC for Docker (initially) and eventually Podman/k8s.
- sm1ch 3y ago
  lxd (not just lxc) is now also available as a deb package in debian: https://wiki.debian.org/LXD https://wiki.debian.org/LXD https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768073 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768073
aragilar 3y ago
The "lxc" command runs lxd, you need to run "lxc-'command'" for actual lxc.
CoolCold 3y ago
Interesting - I don't observe such behavior with snap/lxd on my Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04 boxes. Not a heavy user though - maximum 15-20 VEs (virtual enforcements) per server.