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>My grandfather still has his Hickey Freeman suits and sports coats tailored and repaired by a local menswear shop. Do you think people are getting new suits b

>My grandfather still has his Hickey Freeman suits and sports coats tailored and repaired by a local menswear shop. Do you think people are getting new suits because they are "worn out", or perhaps because they're no longer in style? >Their technics AV components still work with their high quality speakers. I'll bet modern engineered speakers will beat those high quality speakers, at a fraction of the price. That's modernity.

bob1029 3y ago
> I'll bet modern engineered speakers will beat those high quality speakers, at a fraction of the price. You'd be surprised how shitty most "modern" speakers are. Size is still king. Doesn't matter how fast your fancy microcontrollers are. The big-ass cabinets from the 80s and 90s still sound incredible when you put them next to the typical experience you'd find on the shelves of Target or Best Buy.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Yeah, I'd probably ditch the big stereo system if I were starting over from scratch at this point. But that would be in the interests of downsizing, not because I have any illusions that a soundbar is as good as my surround sound setup with large speakers and a subwoofer.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Correct. The only downside on some of those large speakers is the paper cones can get brittle and break, but when properly repaired they sound great. Often the woofer on the speaker is larger than a modern 5.1 subwoofer.
- hakfoo 3y ago
  The one argument I can see for modern speakers is materials: theoretically we can have better materials science-- better foams and rubbers for the gaskets and such, better insulating batting. However, it is frustrating that I can't get modern speakers anything like my parents' three-ways with a 12 or 15 inch woofer without finding some esoteric offering.
  - bob1029 3y ago
    > However, it is frustrating that I can't get modern speakers anything like my parents' three-ways with a 12 or 15 inch woofer without finding some esoteric offering. You can get "modern" builds of the very same loudspeakers right now with major brands like Klipsch - https://www.klipsch.com/heritage-premium-audio https://www.klipsch.com/heritage-premium-audio The AK6 is still considered by many to be the best loudspeaker you can ever own.
photonerd 3y ago
Eh, speaker tech—outside of miniaturization—seems to be the one area that feels pretty static. Mainly because the market did large speakers is so much smaller now. Feels like the price/quality trade off is about the same as it was 40 years ago. The speakers that are “a fraction of the price” now are there, but they’re really terrible Chinese-made junk for the most part.

bob1029 3y ago

> I'll bet modern engineered speakers will beat those high quality speakers, at a fraction of the price. You'd be surprised how shitty most "modern" speakers are. Size is still king. Doesn't matter how fast your fancy microcontrollers are. The big-ass cabinets from the 80s and 90s still sound incredible when you put them next to the typical experience you'd find on the shelves of Target or Best Buy.

ghaff 3y ago
Yeah, I'd probably ditch the big stereo system if I were starting over from scratch at this point. But that would be in the interests of downsizing, not because I have any illusions that a soundbar is as good as my surround sound setup with large speakers and a subwoofer.
bombcar 3y ago
Correct. The only downside on some of those large speakers is the paper cones can get brittle and break, but when properly repaired they sound great. Often the woofer on the speaker is larger than a modern 5.1 subwoofer.
hakfoo 3y ago
The one argument I can see for modern speakers is materials: theoretically we can have better materials science-- better foams and rubbers for the gaskets and such, better insulating batting. However, it is frustrating that I can't get modern speakers anything like my parents' three-ways with a 12 or 15 inch woofer without finding some esoteric offering.
- bob1029 3y ago
  > However, it is frustrating that I can't get modern speakers anything like my parents' three-ways with a 12 or 15 inch woofer without finding some esoteric offering. You can get "modern" builds of the very same loudspeakers right now with major brands like Klipsch - https://www.klipsch.com/heritage-premium-audio https://www.klipsch.com/heritage-premium-audio The AK6 is still considered by many to be the best loudspeaker you can ever own.

photonerd 3y ago

Eh, speaker tech—outside of miniaturization—seems to be the one area that feels pretty static. Mainly because the market did large speakers is so much smaller now. Feels like the price/quality trade off is about the same as it was 40 years ago. The speakers that are “a fraction of the price” now are there, but they’re really terrible Chinese-made junk for the most part.