> but this is kind of a smelt-it/dealt-it observation right? Yeah, I’ve had years in my life when I had poor sleeping habits and years when the habits were oka

> but this is kind of a smelt-it/dealt-it observation right? Yeah, I’ve had years in my life when I had poor sleeping habits and years when the habits were okay. I usually deal with heavy revenge sleep procrastination when I’m crunching at work (games industry) and I try to reclaim some hours for myself at the cost of sleep. Yeah, it’s a process and culture problem. Though individuals have some say in it. Even with crunch in the games industry, you get to set some personal boundaries. You can always put your health first. And our industry has been crunching less and less because people have started doing that. It used to be that when a company prescribed crunch (6 day a week, 16 hour a day schedules), almost everyone would do it. Now almost everyone quits. And that’s good, people have reasonable control over that. Besides, if someone flat out chooses not to adhere to crunch, they have options. Just not doing it is enough - there are rarely serious consequences. With schools, it’s different. The question is not about reducing workloads, but about just moving them to a different time in the day. That, in my experience, is meaningless.