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> This is why it's funny to see people view the war in Ukraine as a "good guy vs bad guy". The geopolitics are incredibly complicated and there is a lot behind
by _kbh_ 3y ago
> This is why it's funny to see people view the war in Ukraine as a "good guy vs bad guy". The geopolitics are incredibly complicated and there is a lot behind the scene the average person doesn't see.
This war is as clear as WW2 if you don’t see that then I don’t know what to say, it’s plain as day to most people.
- mantas 3y agoTalking about WW2, a lot of people still think Soviets were the good guys. Forgetting how nazis and soviets split eastern europe. And later soviets forgot to leave.
- KptMarchewa 3y agoAnd that's clear to everyone nowadays. You really see anyone disputing that?
- cbHXBY1D 3y agoI will dispute that. Double genocide theory is a debunked right wing nationalist myth, sorry. [1] I'm not saying they were saints but they were on the same moral plane of the Allies, wishing to set up buffer states instead of absorbing them fully into the USSR. Political repression was a real issue in the eastern bloc countries but it's no where near as bad as what the US, France, or UK did in the post war period with their colonies, segregation, bombings, or coups. [1] https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
- mantas 3y agoSoviets did absorb plenty of buffer countries fully into USSR. Along with massacring a lot of people and/or sending them to gulags. You’re thinking about USSR of 1980s when political repression and some hair cutting was the main issue. But USSR up to mid 1950s was a tad more evil to say the least. And „debunking double genocide theory“ is fighting a strawman. Let’s talk how USSR started WW2 along with Nazis. Let’s talk Katyn or Rainiai. Let’s talk gulags. Stalin’s purges. Early USSR social reforms and consequences.
- FreshStart 3y agoBuffer states are a debunked strategic concept from the 18 century, useless in times of nukes.
- mantas 3y agoThere are plenty of tankies and just naive leftist who wish to believe that USSR was good.
- quetzthecoatl 3y ago[flagged]
- foldr 3y agoAre you really trying to ‘both sides’ WWII?
- Gibbon1 3y agoHe's a Hindu nationalist. So yeah of course he is.
- narayanbs 3y agoAnd who are you to certify?? Look at yourself first.
- wwtrv 3y agoPresumably not a deranged Hindu nationalist? Seems good enough...
- quetzthecoatl 3y agoahh.. isn't that sweet, a Nazi is happy he isn't a brown Hindu.
- wwtrv 3y agoWhat? Nazis didn't really have much against Hindus or Arabs (well yet anyway..) in fact tried hard to appeal to them and had quite a bit of success. Also, I don't quite get you? are you calling me a Nazi? Is that a compliment given your previous far-right rhetoric? I'm sorry you seem to be sending some mixed signals...
- quetzthecoatl 3y ago[flagged]