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This feels potentially a bit duplicitous. YouTube is filled with copyright infringing material, which Google capitalizes on to bring in viewers to ads. Granted,

by ngneer 3y ago

This feels potentially a bit duplicitous. YouTube is filled with copyright infringing material, which Google capitalizes on to bring in viewers to ads. Granted, they have hosting costs. I wonder what the legal situation is for such instances.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Very, very little of YouTube infringes copyright. The content that you think is infringing copyright has in fact been licensed and monetized by the copyright holders. YouTube will often permit uploaders to keep their copyrighted content; the automated fingerprinting systems recognize it and notify the copyright holders, and ask, "what do you wanna do?" and often, the answer is to keep it, and give us the proceeds. Likewise, there is plenty of fair use content. I've watched tons of "film and TV critic" type channels, where your gracious hostess will sit through, say, an entire half-hour episode of "Murder, She Wrote" and she adds her commentary and snarky jokes to the soundtrack. But the copyrighted episode itself is reproduced nearly in its entirety. There is an entire industry built on this fair use content. They need to carefully observe the guidelines or they'll get strikes, but it's definitely a doable thing, and they can indeed monetize those videos for themselves.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Very little of YouTube infringes copyright in the United States - other countries don’t have the same transformative free use privileges that the US has.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    I suppose it matters whether YouTube content is hosted in these USA or outside of it, for purposes of international copyright. I'm not really sure how it all works internationally, but I know that on a site such as Wikimedia Commons, which is 100% hosted in these USA, they are still mindful that every work they host is 100% free in all involved countries. So if a more generous Italian copyright, say, or an Australian FOP law, gets in the way of hosting an image, they will always respect that, rather than relying on the technicality that the image is only hosted in these USA and they don't strictly need to observe other nations' laws in that regard. YouTube may have distributed content hosting in other nations, and so I don't know how they get along with international copyright, where as you say, fair use is less fair than in USA. Perhaps they do rely on hosting location as a definitive test for which laws they're going to obey.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      YouTube has blocks that appear if you try to access certain content from countries that they don't have a license for, or it's copyright, etc. You see similar things with Gutenberg e-texts; they'll be marked as "not available in Australia" or whatever, and the mirrors there won't have it.

by ngneer 3y ago

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago

Very, very little of YouTube infringes copyright. The content that you think is infringing copyright has in fact been licensed and monetized by the copyright holders. YouTube will often permit uploaders to keep their copyrighted content; the automated fingerprinting systems recognize it and notify the copyright holders, and ask, "what do you wanna do?" and often, the answer is to keep it, and give us the proceeds. Likewise, there is plenty of fair use content. I've watched tons of "film and TV critic" type channels, where your gracious hostess will sit through, say, an entire half-hour episode of "Murder, She Wrote" and she adds her commentary and snarky jokes to the soundtrack. But the copyrighted episode itself is reproduced nearly in its entirety. There is an entire industry built on this fair use content. They need to carefully observe the guidelines or they'll get strikes, but it's definitely a doable thing, and they can indeed monetize those videos for themselves.

bombcar 3y ago
Very little of YouTube infringes copyright in the United States - other countries don’t have the same transformative free use privileges that the US has.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  I suppose it matters whether YouTube content is hosted in these USA or outside of it, for purposes of international copyright. I'm not really sure how it all works internationally, but I know that on a site such as Wikimedia Commons, which is 100% hosted in these USA, they are still mindful that every work they host is 100% free in all involved countries. So if a more generous Italian copyright, say, or an Australian FOP law, gets in the way of hosting an image, they will always respect that, rather than relying on the technicality that the image is only hosted in these USA and they don't strictly need to observe other nations' laws in that regard. YouTube may have distributed content hosting in other nations, and so I don't know how they get along with international copyright, where as you say, fair use is less fair than in USA. Perhaps they do rely on hosting location as a definitive test for which laws they're going to obey.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    YouTube has blocks that appear if you try to access certain content from countries that they don't have a license for, or it's copyright, etc. You see similar things with Gutenberg e-texts; they'll be marked as "not available in Australia" or whatever, and the mirrors there won't have it.