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At this point we don't know if this is subtractive, additive, or a wash.

by anonymouskimmer 3y ago

MattGaiser 3y ago
How many people would normally be killed in the same distance driven by human drivers?
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  It can't just be the same distance, but the same parameters in general.
  - williamcotton 3y ago
    Less than 1 fatality per at least 100 million miles driven would cover enough scenarios to be an acceptable metric as well as an improvement over human drivers.
- vba616 3y ago
  I think I remember that a ballpark figure (meaning zero significant figures) for how many miles a human typically drives between fatalities is 100 million, or roughly 100 lifetimes' worth. I also knew a bus driver who had a plaque for going 1 million miles without an accident.
radq 3y ago
As someone that rides a bicycle around human-driven vehicles, I will take my chances with autonomous cars. The autonomous car isn't going to drive drunk, use a phone, or drive erratically because the driver is feeling frustrated.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  Are they training autonomous cars on how to handle equipment malfunction?
  - sour-taste 3y ago
    First of all, probably. These cars have far more sensors and far more monitoring than standard cars so they know when things go wrong quickly and can react quickly (by like pulling over). At the current scale of self driving cars actually being tested right now it's basically guaranteed that a tire has blown by now. Given we haven't heard about it killing someone it probably means that the software knows how to handle it. Second, human error accounted for >90% of accidents [1]. Focusing on that fraction first makes sense. 1] https://www.cbmclaw.com/what-percentage-of-car-accidents-are-caused-by-human-error/ https://www.cbmclaw.com/what-percentage-of-car-accidents-are...
    - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
      I'm just wondering what happens as these cars get older. Right now they are all young, and presumably regularly and well maintained. I presume they'll be engineered to the same standards as conventional vehicles, which means chronic issues popping up.

At this point we don't know if this is subtractive, additive, or a wash.

MattGaiser 3y ago

How many people would normally be killed in the same distance driven by human drivers?

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
It can't just be the same distance, but the same parameters in general.
- williamcotton 3y ago
  Less than 1 fatality per at least 100 million miles driven would cover enough scenarios to be an acceptable metric as well as an improvement over human drivers.
vba616 3y ago
I think I remember that a ballpark figure (meaning zero significant figures) for how many miles a human typically drives between fatalities is 100 million, or roughly 100 lifetimes' worth. I also knew a bus driver who had a plaque for going 1 million miles without an accident.

radq 3y ago

As someone that rides a bicycle around human-driven vehicles, I will take my chances with autonomous cars. The autonomous car isn't going to drive drunk, use a phone, or drive erratically because the driver is feeling frustrated.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
Are they training autonomous cars on how to handle equipment malfunction?
- sour-taste 3y ago
  First of all, probably. These cars have far more sensors and far more monitoring than standard cars so they know when things go wrong quickly and can react quickly (by like pulling over). At the current scale of self driving cars actually being tested right now it's basically guaranteed that a tire has blown by now. Given we haven't heard about it killing someone it probably means that the software knows how to handle it. Second, human error accounted for >90% of accidents [1]. Focusing on that fraction first makes sense. 1] https://www.cbmclaw.com/what-percentage-of-car-accidents-are-caused-by-human-error/ https://www.cbmclaw.com/what-percentage-of-car-accidents-are...
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    I'm just wondering what happens as these cars get older. Right now they are all young, and presumably regularly and well maintained. I presume they'll be engineered to the same standards as conventional vehicles, which means chronic issues popping up.