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These exemptions we are passing out are insane. This guy claims he thought it was a search engine? Lawyers use specific case law databases and they SHOULD appr

These exemptions we are passing out are insane. This guy claims he thought it was a search engine? Lawyers use specific case law databases and they SHOULD approach any new tools with healthy skepticism. And if he googled it and cited a fake case would it be better? Why wouldn’t you vet the information.

CPLX 3y ago
Yeah it was bad. Disbarment is equivalent to taking away his entire life's work. Two minute hate on the internet every day is fun and all but it's not that severe.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  He failed his duty to both client and the court. This was wilful negligence. This is like surgeon doing wrong procedure he just invented on patient.
- vkou 3y ago
  > Disbarment is equivalent to taking away his entire life's work. 'Lawyer' is the kind of profession which actually holds its practitioners to a standard, because the system falls apart when they stop behaving honestly. This wasn't an oopsie-daisies, this was dishonesty, followed by further dishonesty, when they supplied bogus references for these cases.
  - CPLX 3y ago
    But it wasn't dishonesty it was total obliviousness, maybe negligence.
    - mtrpcic 3y ago
      A negligent civil engineer that failed to verify construction details provided by GPT, which later led to a bridge collapse, would lose their license. A negligent doctor that failed to vet a treatment protocol to a patient that later caused them harm would lose their license. Negligence is a fair, reasonable, and valid reason for someone to be determined unqualified to practice their profession in the future.
      - CPLX 3y ago
        > A negligent doctor that failed to vet a treatment protocol to a patient that later caused them harm would lose their license No, they wouldn’t
    - vkou 3y ago
      It crossed the line from stupidity into dishonesty when the judge asked him "Wtf is this court case that you're citing", and the lawyer sent the judge a fabricated document. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.575368/gov.uscourts.nysd.575368.29.1.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.57... How can anyone trust anything a lawyer does, when they are willing to fabricate documents, in order to continue to lie to a judge? This is Better Call Saul-level chicanery. He could have fessed up and apologized when called out on it, but he doubled down.
- geon 3y ago
  We expect doctors to not pump us full with chlorine, even if chatgpt says it's good for us. Why are lawyers exempt from responsibility?

CPLX 3y ago

Yeah it was bad. Disbarment is equivalent to taking away his entire life's work. Two minute hate on the internet every day is fun and all but it's not that severe.

Ekaros 3y ago
He failed his duty to both client and the court. This was wilful negligence. This is like surgeon doing wrong procedure he just invented on patient.
vkou 3y ago
> Disbarment is equivalent to taking away his entire life's work. 'Lawyer' is the kind of profession which actually holds its practitioners to a standard, because the system falls apart when they stop behaving honestly. This wasn't an oopsie-daisies, this was dishonesty, followed by further dishonesty, when they supplied bogus references for these cases.
- CPLX 3y ago
  But it wasn't dishonesty it was total obliviousness, maybe negligence.
  - mtrpcic 3y ago
    A negligent civil engineer that failed to verify construction details provided by GPT, which later led to a bridge collapse, would lose their license. A negligent doctor that failed to vet a treatment protocol to a patient that later caused them harm would lose their license. Negligence is a fair, reasonable, and valid reason for someone to be determined unqualified to practice their profession in the future.
    - CPLX 3y ago
      > A negligent doctor that failed to vet a treatment protocol to a patient that later caused them harm would lose their license No, they wouldn’t
  - vkou 3y ago
    It crossed the line from stupidity into dishonesty when the judge asked him "Wtf is this court case that you're citing", and the lawyer sent the judge a fabricated document. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.575368/gov.uscourts.nysd.575368.29.1.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.57... How can anyone trust anything a lawyer does, when they are willing to fabricate documents, in order to continue to lie to a judge? This is Better Call Saul-level chicanery. He could have fessed up and apologized when called out on it, but he doubled down.
geon 3y ago
We expect doctors to not pump us full with chlorine, even if chatgpt says it's good for us. Why are lawyers exempt from responsibility?