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All the major clouds charge close to 9 cents per gigabyte for data out (egress). Cloudflares R2 storage charges 0 cents out per gigabyte. I don’t know how th

All the major clouds charge close to 9 cents per gigabyte for data out (egress). Cloudflares R2 storage charges 0 cents out per gigabyte. I don’t know how they do it.

gurjeet 3y ago
They started Bandwidth Alliance [0] [1] to reduce, or even eliminate, bandwidth charges. So I think they're sticking to that commitment. I can't speak to the overall health of the alliance, though. I remember reaching out to one of their listed partners (I forget which) in the Alliance a couple of years ago about the egress fee for bandwidth originating from Cloudflare, and the response I got was "we can talk about that when your fees get huge". That wasn't the response I was expecting from a partner. I just clicked on one of the listed partners [2[ and the page still says "all bandwidth between Vultr and Cloudflare will be free of charge in the upcoming months." The Wayback Machine tells me that that statement hasn't been updated ever since it was created. So without a clear number or scale, customers are still at the mercy of a call to the partner's Sales dept. [0]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ [1]: https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ [2]: https://www.cloudflare.com/partners/technology-partners/vultr/ https://www.cloudflare.com/partners/technology-partners/vult...
linsomniac 3y ago
There was a recent thread titled something like "How do I serve 5TB of data" (I can't seem to find it now). MANY of the responses said that bandwidth in Cloudflare is 0 cents "until you reach 100TB, then they want to talk to you about their Enterprise plans". This was echoed by 5+ responses, so before you go relying on CF's free bandwidth, check on this. We were looking to migrate a small photo service over to Cloudflare workers and R2 storage, partly because of the Bandwidth Alliance, but squashed that when we heard there might be surprise charges.
jorams 3y ago
It seems the answer for Cloudflare is that the real price of their services is just a lot more hidden. 9 cents per GB is still a lot more than it needs to be. It's a form of vendor lock-in. BunnyCDN charges[1] 1 to 6 cents per GB depending on the region, or 0.5 cents and lower for the "volume network" with fewer POPs. They've done so for years, and it funded their entire operation until their first investment round last October. [1]: https://bunny.net/pricing/ https://bunny.net/pricing/

All the major clouds charge close to 9 cents per gigabyte for data out (egress). Cloudflares R2 storage charges 0 cents out per gigabyte. I don’t know how they do it.

gurjeet 3y ago

They started Bandwidth Alliance [0] [1] to reduce, or even eliminate, bandwidth charges. So I think they're sticking to that commitment. I can't speak to the overall health of the alliance, though. I remember reaching out to one of their listed partners (I forget which) in the Alliance a couple of years ago about the egress fee for bandwidth originating from Cloudflare, and the response I got was "we can talk about that when your fees get huge". That wasn't the response I was expecting from a partner. I just clicked on one of the listed partners [2[ and the page still says "all bandwidth between Vultr and Cloudflare will be free of charge in the upcoming months." The Wayback Machine tells me that that statement hasn't been updated ever since it was created. So without a clear number or scale, customers are still at the mercy of a call to the partner's Sales dept. [0]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ [1]: https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ [2]: https://www.cloudflare.com/partners/technology-partners/vultr/ https://www.cloudflare.com/partners/technology-partners/vult...

linsomniac 3y ago

There was a recent thread titled something like "How do I serve 5TB of data" (I can't seem to find it now). MANY of the responses said that bandwidth in Cloudflare is 0 cents "until you reach 100TB, then they want to talk to you about their Enterprise plans". This was echoed by 5+ responses, so before you go relying on CF's free bandwidth, check on this. We were looking to migrate a small photo service over to Cloudflare workers and R2 storage, partly because of the Bandwidth Alliance, but squashed that when we heard there might be surprise charges.

jorams 3y ago

It seems the answer for Cloudflare is that the real price of their services is just a lot more hidden. 9 cents per GB is still a lot more than it needs to be. It's a form of vendor lock-in. BunnyCDN charges[1] 1 to 6 cents per GB depending on the region, or 0.5 cents and lower for the "volume network" with fewer POPs. They've done so for years, and it funded their entire operation until their first investment round last October. [1]: https://bunny.net/pricing/ https://bunny.net/pricing/