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Given the blatant lies by the CEO towards the Apollo developer I don't believe a single word that they can't prove.

by Timon3 3y ago

MicropenisMike 3y ago
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FormerBandmate 3y ago
It’s truly incompetent management. Spotify gatekeeps all third party apps behind their premium subscription, they could charge $10 a month for Reddit Premium to give access to Apollo and they’d make out like bandits. Spez sounds like he has personal beef with Christian on the AMA, that’s Elon Musk level nonsense except replacing electric cars and space travel with a shitty web forum
- tedivm 3y ago
  THIS! Just make it so the third party apps only work for reddit gold users, or have limitations for non-gold users, and now they've converted a bunch of the apollo users into paying members. Instead they're lying and slandering people, getting caught, and doubling down. I'm getting the impression that reddit isn't profitable not because of any fundamental issue, but because the leadership of the site have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
  - mindslight 3y ago
    I have to wonder if this is just the same cross-society trend of employees seemingly checking out and doing the bare minimum, manifesting in the C-suite. One would think top management should be doing the work of coming up with several different monetization strategies, analyzing what different types of backlash they each might cause, how to market them, simulating revenue given various levels of attrition, etc. Instead it's like they (he?) have chosen a single course of action and are just going to force it through at all costs, and they're in charge so why isn't everyone just doing what they say damnit.
- jupp0r 3y ago
  Best summary of the whole saga I've read so far.
voytec 3y ago
He now blames[1] Apollo's author for saying other things in private and in public and "leaking" the phone call recording proving Huffman's lying, which - the developer mentioned at least twice - is legal in Canada where he lives. Sucks that I don't have popcorn at hand. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45rr/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_...
- Rebelgecko 3y ago
  What are the odds that Spez replies to the response the Apollo dev left under that?
  - HaroldBolt78 3y ago
    He could always covertly edit their comments if he's upset that people don't have the right opinions. It wouldn't be the first time.
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- mustacheemperor 3y ago
  What is this guy's issue? Why does he keep saying and doing pointless things that are self-destructive and risky to him and the business? How has reddit let this situation run so completely out of their control? Divorcing entirely from the subject of the strategy change, the decision to execute it in this manner seems incomprehensible unless they truly do want to completely drive away as many of the users who even know about this change as possible. Maybe we are so ignorant of Reddit's real user metrics that they consider almost everyone reading that AMA to be a money drain.
  - ink_13 3y ago
    He seems to be attempting to use a technique known as DARVO ("deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender") to smear the Apollo dev. This happens sometimes when people who know they've done something wrong are held accountable.

Given the blatant lies by the CEO towards the Apollo developer I don't believe a single word that they can't prove.

by Timon3 3y ago

Given the blatant lies by the CEO towards the Apollo developer I don't believe a single word that they can't prove.

MicropenisMike 3y ago

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FormerBandmate 3y ago

It’s truly incompetent management. Spotify gatekeeps all third party apps behind their premium subscription, they could charge $10 a month for Reddit Premium to give access to Apollo and they’d make out like bandits. Spez sounds like he has personal beef with Christian on the AMA, that’s Elon Musk level nonsense except replacing electric cars and space travel with a shitty web forum

tedivm 3y ago
THIS! Just make it so the third party apps only work for reddit gold users, or have limitations for non-gold users, and now they've converted a bunch of the apollo users into paying members. Instead they're lying and slandering people, getting caught, and doubling down. I'm getting the impression that reddit isn't profitable not because of any fundamental issue, but because the leadership of the site have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
- mindslight 3y ago
  I have to wonder if this is just the same cross-society trend of employees seemingly checking out and doing the bare minimum, manifesting in the C-suite. One would think top management should be doing the work of coming up with several different monetization strategies, analyzing what different types of backlash they each might cause, how to market them, simulating revenue given various levels of attrition, etc. Instead it's like they (he?) have chosen a single course of action and are just going to force it through at all costs, and they're in charge so why isn't everyone just doing what they say damnit.
jupp0r 3y ago
Best summary of the whole saga I've read so far.

voytec 3y ago

He now blames[1] Apollo's author for saying other things in private and in public and "leaking" the phone call recording proving Huffman's lying, which - the developer mentioned at least twice - is legal in Canada where he lives. Sucks that I don't have popcorn at hand. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45rr/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_...

Rebelgecko 3y ago
What are the odds that Spez replies to the response the Apollo dev left under that?
- HaroldBolt78 3y ago
  He could always covertly edit their comments if he's upset that people don't have the right opinions. It wouldn't be the first time.
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mustacheemperor 3y ago
What is this guy's issue? Why does he keep saying and doing pointless things that are self-destructive and risky to him and the business? How has reddit let this situation run so completely out of their control? Divorcing entirely from the subject of the strategy change, the decision to execute it in this manner seems incomprehensible unless they truly do want to completely drive away as many of the users who even know about this change as possible. Maybe we are so ignorant of Reddit's real user metrics that they consider almost everyone reading that AMA to be a money drain.
- ink_13 3y ago
  He seems to be attempting to use a technique known as DARVO ("deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender") to smear the Apollo dev. This happens sometimes when people who know they've done something wrong are held accountable.