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>Mr. Davies said he was ready to move on from Three Arrows by the end of last summer. “I really spent so much time meditating in Bali that I’m really just prett

>Mr. Davies said he was ready to move on from Three Arrows by the end of last summer. “I really spent so much time meditating in Bali that I’m really just pretty zenned out,” he said. I always found this odd about hardcore meditators. Surely at some point they realize they're just numbing their minds to the problem without actually solving it.

brutusborn 3y ago
If you meditate long enough you realise there is no problem and no need for a solution. I suspect he meditated for a couple months and told everyone he was ‘enlightened.’ Or used meditation as a distraction from his problems and thus got no benefit.
- ChainOfFools 3y ago
  s/meditat/pray & s/enlightened/forgiven
  - brutusborn 3y ago
    This went over my Guinness riddled head.
    - quesera 3y ago
      Probably because the regex replacement patterns lack terminating delimiters.
      - brutusborn 3y ago
        Ah I get it now, definitely helps that my brain is now Guinness free
perfmode 3y ago
naive gradient descent hits local maxima
mtalantikite 3y ago
> Surely at some point they realize they're just numbing their minds to the problem without actually solving it. Yeah, it's a pretty common trap, the ego has a way of coming in and making you think you're doing some great thing or have accomplished a lot. You can have scammed all these people out of billions of dollars and trick yourself into thinking "well everything is emptiness anyways, it's all good". The best explanation of it I've found of it so far is Chogyam Trungpa's "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" [1]. [1] https://www.shambhala.com/cutting-through-spiritual-materialism-458.html https://www.shambhala.com/cutting-through-spiritual-material...
- brutusborn 3y ago
  Thank you so much for that link. I’ve been meditating with apps for a few years but have recently joined a group and found a teacher. I feel like I was ‘stuck’ for a long time and I think it was due to something similar to your description.
jrflowers 3y ago
It could very simply be a case of people just saying shit. Don’t want to elaborate on why you’re making a decision? Just say some words —any words really— and walk away! Somebody asks you if you screwed over a ton of investors? Just say that only a monk that’s grasped the true essence of satori could answer that question!

brutusborn 3y ago

If you meditate long enough you realise there is no problem and no need for a solution. I suspect he meditated for a couple months and told everyone he was ‘enlightened.’ Or used meditation as a distraction from his problems and thus got no benefit.

ChainOfFools 3y ago
s/meditat/pray & s/enlightened/forgiven
- brutusborn 3y ago
  This went over my Guinness riddled head.
  - quesera 3y ago
    Probably because the regex replacement patterns lack terminating delimiters.
    - brutusborn 3y ago
      Ah I get it now, definitely helps that my brain is now Guinness free

perfmode 3y ago

naive gradient descent hits local maxima

mtalantikite 3y ago

> Surely at some point they realize they're just numbing their minds to the problem without actually solving it. Yeah, it's a pretty common trap, the ego has a way of coming in and making you think you're doing some great thing or have accomplished a lot. You can have scammed all these people out of billions of dollars and trick yourself into thinking "well everything is emptiness anyways, it's all good". The best explanation of it I've found of it so far is Chogyam Trungpa's "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" [1]. [1] https://www.shambhala.com/cutting-through-spiritual-materialism-458.html https://www.shambhala.com/cutting-through-spiritual-material...

brutusborn 3y ago
Thank you so much for that link. I’ve been meditating with apps for a few years but have recently joined a group and found a teacher. I feel like I was ‘stuck’ for a long time and I think it was due to something similar to your description.

jrflowers 3y ago

It could very simply be a case of people just saying shit. Don’t want to elaborate on why you’re making a decision? Just say some words —any words really— and walk away! Somebody asks you if you screwed over a ton of investors? Just say that only a monk that’s grasped the true essence of satori could answer that question!