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As a reminder, all the SE sites have content under a Creative Commons, By Attribution, Share Alike license, allowing for, among other things, commercial re-use
by abetusk 3y ago
As a reminder, all the SE sites have content under a Creative Commons, By Attribution, Share Alike license, allowing for, among other things, commercial re-use [0] [1].
Yes, it sucks that the SE sites are getting more draconian about allowing access to their content but the SE sites are well insulated against it completely disappearing precisely because they're under a libre/free license. Note that Reddit [2], nor HN I might add [3], have any such licensing terms that allow for commercial reuse.
Decentralization might be a viable option in the future, but for right now, centralized sites are the norm and the way to protect against the content from disappearing is to put it under libre/free licensing. Note that Wikipedia is centralized and it would certainly be a tragedy if they became more draconian about sharing their data but the content itself is and will be available to the general public, effectively the "commons", because of the licensing terms.
To me, this is yet another reminder of why we need to future proof with libre/free/open licensing terms. Or reform copyright, but I don't see that happening within my lifetime.
[0] https://stackoverflow.com/legal/terms-of-service/public#licensing https://stackoverflow.com/legal/terms-of-service/public#lice...
[1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
[2] https://www.redditinc.com/policies/developer-terms#text-content4 https://www.redditinc.com/policies/developer-terms#text-cont...
[3] https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou
- ignoramous 3y agoShould petition Daniel Gackle et al to CC-BY user-generated content on HN.
- belter 3y agoThe change to 4.0 was done without permission according to many in the comunity. "Stack Exchange doesn't have the right to unilaterally change the license of previously submitted content." - https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchange-and-stack-overflow-have-moved-to-cc-by-sa-4-0 https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333089/stack-exchan...
- arp242 3y agoOlder posts are under the older CC 3.0 license, newer posts under the CC 4.0. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/344491/an-update-on-creative-commons-licensing https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/344491/an-update-on...
- usr1106 3y agoI haven't studied the legalize, but I assume if they put all answers behind a paywall tomorrow nothing can be done. I don't think the license says they must share.
- abetusk 3y agoThe intent is to prevent exactly this type of possibility. They may be able to put it behind a paywall and copyright future work but not work that's already been published. Obviously not legal precedent, but there is some discussion on the matter by the Creative Commons organization [0]. [0] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#what-happens-if-the-author-decides-to-revoke-the-cc-license-to-material-i-am-using https://creativecommons.org/faq/#what-happens-if-the-author-...