3 ms·

A thousand curses to whoever wrote and runs this. So much valuable information is going to be lost because of greed and stupidity.

dmbche 3y ago
Hey - people are free to do what they want with their stuff. You're not entitled to people's comments!
- pdntspa 3y ago
  They are, but people acting selfishly as individuals is going to destroy a great common resource, and we will all be worse off for it. Truly a tragedy of the commons. "But I've been fishing this lake my whole life!" Yeah, you and everyone else buddy. Now there are no more fish in the lake. Would you burn the library of alexandria just because the ehyptian government started charging for access?
  - dmbche 3y ago
    Oh no - but I've deleted all my comments when I left reddit a few years back, just because I don't like having a papertrail of comments behind me, which I think is a fair use of this tool!
    - pdntspa 3y ago
      What are you doing commenting on a reddit account traceable to other identities? That's like usernames 101 man.
      - dmbche 3y ago
        We're all young once! And I'm certain most users are traceable. Systematic flaw - guess it should be like 4chan. Edit: I'm also a little overly paranoid and assume that it's probably trivial to link anonimised usernamed comments to some individual, from times where comments are made and connections in subject and style of writing. I now assume all interactions that are not encrypted are public and not anonymised
junon 3y ago
How about a thousand curses to Reddit for killing their own site? Weird apologist nonsense happening on this thread...
- pdntspa 3y ago
  Regimes change, but information simply dies. Your perspective lacks long-term vision. This isn't about apologetics, it's about the preservation of useful information. I am still reeling over the loss of discussions on imdb, nowhere else could one contextualize any given movie so easily.
Barrin92 3y ago
it has nothing to do with greed or stupidity but the right of individuals to retain ownership over their own data. We have this enshrined as a right in the EU. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten). It's very strange to suggest that extracting value from other people's information somehow ought to override their privacy or control. It's a sort of digital voyeurism. Also arguably why a lot of young people have abandoned the public web. Without the ability to control your history you are either forced to be anonymous, censor yourself, or risk having some 10 year old comment be dug up to haunt you.
- pdntspa 3y ago
  The EU massively and hamfistedly overcorrected on its digital rights legislation. It is so laughably arrogant to think that one could assert control over all their data once it's in the public, particularly in an age of youtube-dl and 'right click to save as'. And now we have endless fucking cookie popups because they didn't have enough backbone to actually ban these bad data practices, rather left in a really obnoxious loophole for which the whole world must suffer. Data out in the public cannot be controlled. Period. Full stop. Any control you are given is a luxury, which may not last. It is very trusting to think that just because something disappears off the public web, that it is truly gone. The other problem is that people are wiping their whole accounts. It is infuriating to think that a technical thread, for example, might be missing the post with the actual solution, all because someone thought they were striking back against Wall Street or something. I believe very firmly in privacy but this is one area where the greater good trumps individual concerns.

dmbche 3y ago

Hey - people are free to do what they want with their stuff. You're not entitled to people's comments!

pdntspa 3y ago
They are, but people acting selfishly as individuals is going to destroy a great common resource, and we will all be worse off for it. Truly a tragedy of the commons. "But I've been fishing this lake my whole life!" Yeah, you and everyone else buddy. Now there are no more fish in the lake. Would you burn the library of alexandria just because the ehyptian government started charging for access?
- dmbche 3y ago
  Oh no - but I've deleted all my comments when I left reddit a few years back, just because I don't like having a papertrail of comments behind me, which I think is a fair use of this tool!
  - pdntspa 3y ago
    What are you doing commenting on a reddit account traceable to other identities? That's like usernames 101 man.
    - dmbche 3y ago
      We're all young once! And I'm certain most users are traceable. Systematic flaw - guess it should be like 4chan. Edit: I'm also a little overly paranoid and assume that it's probably trivial to link anonimised usernamed comments to some individual, from times where comments are made and connections in subject and style of writing. I now assume all interactions that are not encrypted are public and not anonymised

junon 3y ago

How about a thousand curses to Reddit for killing their own site? Weird apologist nonsense happening on this thread...

pdntspa 3y ago
Regimes change, but information simply dies. Your perspective lacks long-term vision. This isn't about apologetics, it's about the preservation of useful information. I am still reeling over the loss of discussions on imdb, nowhere else could one contextualize any given movie so easily.

Barrin92 3y ago

it has nothing to do with greed or stupidity but the right of individuals to retain ownership over their own data. We have this enshrined as a right in the EU. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten). It's very strange to suggest that extracting value from other people's information somehow ought to override their privacy or control. It's a sort of digital voyeurism. Also arguably why a lot of young people have abandoned the public web. Without the ability to control your history you are either forced to be anonymous, censor yourself, or risk having some 10 year old comment be dug up to haunt you.

pdntspa 3y ago
The EU massively and hamfistedly overcorrected on its digital rights legislation. It is so laughably arrogant to think that one could assert control over all their data once it's in the public, particularly in an age of youtube-dl and 'right click to save as'. And now we have endless fucking cookie popups because they didn't have enough backbone to actually ban these bad data practices, rather left in a really obnoxious loophole for which the whole world must suffer. Data out in the public cannot be controlled. Period. Full stop. Any control you are given is a luxury, which may not last. It is very trusting to think that just because something disappears off the public web, that it is truly gone. The other problem is that people are wiping their whole accounts. It is infuriating to think that a technical thread, for example, might be missing the post with the actual solution, all because someone thought they were striking back against Wall Street or something. I believe very firmly in privacy but this is one area where the greater good trumps individual concerns.