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This is funny, I come from a different angle and see almost the opposite of what you see (being overly caricatural on purpose): - where you see the dropping of
by aftoprokrustes 3y ago
This is funny, I come from a different angle and see almost the opposite of what you see (being overly caricatural on purpose):
- where you see the dropping of an old cynicism, I see a lot of capitalist cynicism: where spiritual masters would spend years in prayer and meditation before teaching for free and providing help to all, we now have "life coaches" who ask absurd prices to guide you, because they had a "breakthrough" after two months of psychotherapy
- where you see modern spirituality without the traditions of religion, I see the form of religion (groups organized around a particular dogma, with churches organized around trademarked psychotherapeutic methods) without spirituality
Spirituality and mysticism are all about metaphysics: we got physics to an absolutely awe inspiring level of sophistication, but we still pretty much ignore completely what consciousness is (and we might forever). Spirituality is, according to me, entering into that mystery and poking at it. I personally think metaphysics is an essential part of meaning making, and as such of well being. But this means that I need to be able to discuss it with someone who cares about it, not someone who just sees it as a story that helps holding it together.
- zoogeny 3y agoI wouldn't disagree with you. That is why I said I was surprised to see HN not tearing this kind of article to shreds. I could discuss this for hours, days, weeks or months. So being brief and concise is not easy. > Spirituality is, according to me, entering into that mystery and poking at it. Yes, and we're seeing people who would normally turn away from this embrace it within a new context. Few here are reading the Bible, or the Bhagavad Gita/Upanishads, etc. In some sense, those old religions are dead and rotting. But their ideas are clearly present in this new crop of spiritual-adjacent life-coaching businesses. It is like a new forest growing in the ashes of the one that just burned down. It is almost like a new safe-space to encounter these ideas is being discovered. It is fine to recognize that it isn't as fully developed as the forest that just burned down, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new saplings we are seeing sprout up.