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"google" is made of many individuals. If "google" has your records, you don't know who has access to them - they effectively become "public knowledge" in a way.

by dmbche 3y ago

"google" is made of many individuals. If "google" has your records, you don't know who has access to them - they effectively become "public knowledge" in a way. You can imagine how your medical record could be used against you, I'm sure? For people that have suffered agressions, addiction, mental issues, these are all private but can be used against an individual in the public sphere.

judge2020 3y ago
I trust Google's internal user data access controls infinitely more than I do a random hospital's.
- dmbche 3y ago
  It's not a random hospital - it's your hospital. There are many governmental bodies that are there only to watch Hipaa violations, and if your data is used wrongly you can sue for damages. Google is a private company with no oversight.
  - judge2020 3y ago
    For things like this[0], the medical companies and google operating on the this data are being held to the same standard of protecting medical data as any other healthcare software. It would be the same is Google really made a "my health" app; although the article is talking about Google et al. getting medical data for research purposes, not a personal health app that would be gated behind Google's DC doors and multi-level access controls. 0: https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-epic-cloud-partnership-host-ehr-hackensack/636400/ https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-epic-cloud-partne...
    - dmbche 3y ago
      I'm no expert on these systems, but the data that's in the cloud isn't encrypted? I would've assumed that Google can not have access to the data but are giving access to server space to host it, making HIPAA violations from employees practicaly impossible? (Unless they try to get keys to unencrypt the data, but then again that's outside the scope of this discussion) If not this is alarming, thanks for the head up
- DaSHacka 3y ago
  You trust a company that has been constantly struggling with keeping employees under control and preventing malicious access of user data [0] over an institution who's business model is critically reliant on the proper handling of medical information? [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-fired-employees-abusing-user-data-sharing-personal-info-vice-2021-8?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-fired-employees-abusi...

by dmbche 3y ago

judge2020 3y ago

I trust Google's internal user data access controls infinitely more than I do a random hospital's.

dmbche 3y ago
It's not a random hospital - it's your hospital. There are many governmental bodies that are there only to watch Hipaa violations, and if your data is used wrongly you can sue for damages. Google is a private company with no oversight.
- judge2020 3y ago
  For things like this[0], the medical companies and google operating on the this data are being held to the same standard of protecting medical data as any other healthcare software. It would be the same is Google really made a "my health" app; although the article is talking about Google et al. getting medical data for research purposes, not a personal health app that would be gated behind Google's DC doors and multi-level access controls. 0: https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-epic-cloud-partnership-host-ehr-hackensack/636400/ https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-epic-cloud-partne...
  - dmbche 3y ago
    I'm no expert on these systems, but the data that's in the cloud isn't encrypted? I would've assumed that Google can not have access to the data but are giving access to server space to host it, making HIPAA violations from employees practicaly impossible? (Unless they try to get keys to unencrypt the data, but then again that's outside the scope of this discussion) If not this is alarming, thanks for the head up
DaSHacka 3y ago
You trust a company that has been constantly struggling with keeping employees under control and preventing malicious access of user data [0] over an institution who's business model is critically reliant on the proper handling of medical information? [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-fired-employees-abusing-user-data-sharing-personal-info-vice-2021-8?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-fired-employees-abusi...