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The idea that merely owning property gives you total unilateral power over what can be done with it is I guess common but it's certainly not the only conception

The idea that merely owning property gives you total unilateral power over what can be done with it is I guess common but it's certainly not the only conception of private property that exists. Land is what it is because of where it is. Models exist along a spectrum of where they distribute powers over land, but placing them all with the owner with no input from the surrounding community or state is fringe, even freak. > people who think that a city or neighbourhood is "theirs" just because they happen to live there for a long time — without actually owning anything. God forbid poor people feel a sense of place, community, and pride in their hometown.

BobbyJo 3y ago
> God forbid poor people feel a sense of place, community, and pride in their hometown. I agree with a majority of your comment, but I don't think this is what parent meant here. I have a similar gripe with a lot of the "this is our neighborhood" arguments I hear online and elsewhere as parent. People seem to simultaneously claim membership/ownership in a community as well as estrangement. I think everyone should feel a sense of pride/community where they live. However, if they don't feel that, it's also the community's fault, not Airbnb's. Providing an opportunity to people is not what changes a community for the worse, it's how the community chooses to use it.
- giraffe_lady 3y ago
  Yeah, there's nuance there and I definitely agree it's not airbnb's fault or responsibility. But the comment was assigning the right to have input on the character & trajectory of a place solely with property ownership, which is foul.
- mantas 3y ago
  The thing is that few bad actors, who maybe don't even live in a given community, can ruin it for the community. What are the options for the community to prevent this? Or does community have no rights to preserve itself, given someone with deep enough pockets come?

BobbyJo 3y ago

> God forbid poor people feel a sense of place, community, and pride in their hometown. I agree with a majority of your comment, but I don't think this is what parent meant here. I have a similar gripe with a lot of the "this is our neighborhood" arguments I hear online and elsewhere as parent. People seem to simultaneously claim membership/ownership in a community as well as estrangement. I think everyone should feel a sense of pride/community where they live. However, if they don't feel that, it's also the community's fault, not Airbnb's. Providing an opportunity to people is not what changes a community for the worse, it's how the community chooses to use it.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
Yeah, there's nuance there and I definitely agree it's not airbnb's fault or responsibility. But the comment was assigning the right to have input on the character & trajectory of a place solely with property ownership, which is foul.
mantas 3y ago
The thing is that few bad actors, who maybe don't even live in a given community, can ruin it for the community. What are the options for the community to prevent this? Or does community have no rights to preserve itself, given someone with deep enough pockets come?