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> [...] racing machine that only borderline-superhumans can withstand the g's of. Suggestion: Make cockpits tilt inwards. Sideways-g becomes down-g. Much more

> [...] racing machine that only borderline-superhumans can withstand the g's of. Suggestion: Make cockpits tilt inwards. Sideways-g becomes down-g. Much more pleasurable ride. If the driver is really the limit, and not the added mass for this. It's probably against the rules though.

masklinn 3y ago
Before regulations come into play the added weight and space requirements for the swivel will make your car unusable, the added complexity will make the car unreliable, the weight distribution change will make the car unpredictable. Then the swivel will likely be illegal because it’ll lacks the integrity necessary to be part of the survival cell unless it’s ridiculous (and paragraph 1 is even worse), and its disintegration would have a very high likelihood of killing the pilot, and harming spectators. If you swivel from the outside of the survival cell you now need even more hardware to swivel the entire cell, which means you need more structure to hold the car together (under up to 9G race loads) around the swivel, thus making paragraph 1 yet again worse, as you’ll have yet more space requirements, and weight distribution changes. Also it’ll likely fail on back to back turns (e.g. Istanbul’s 12, 13, 14 or Spa’s bus stop chicane).
johnwalkr 3y ago
Why do you presume that would be better? For one, it would make more blood drain from your brain.
otherme123 3y ago
The driver is not the limit. The grip + downforce is the limit: if they try to do the worse corner (e.g. Copse-Silverstone ~4G) any faster than they do, the problem won't be the driver fainting (like it could happen in extreme maneuvers at a fighter jet), but the car slidding out of the track.
justin66 3y ago
The required minimum level of athleticism among drivers has only increased over time, but "borderline superhumans" is a weird exaggeration. > Make cockpits tilt inwards. Sideways-g becomes down-g. The drivers who experience the greatest effect of g forces, really pushing the limits of what's practical for the human body throughout the duration of a race, are the ones racing on ovals (not F1 drivers). Those tracks are already vectoring the g force downward rather than to the side. For F1, most of their physical challenges come with the forces they experience during braking, and the effect of those forces on the neck. Doing something weird with the cant of the seat could theoretically change that pulling-the-head forward or to the side force into a pulling-the-head downward force, but if you think about what's really needed to do that (you're going to rotate the seat backwards ninety degrees? so the driver is looking at the sky when he's braking?) you can see the problem.

masklinn 3y ago

Before regulations come into play the added weight and space requirements for the swivel will make your car unusable, the added complexity will make the car unreliable, the weight distribution change will make the car unpredictable. Then the swivel will likely be illegal because it’ll lacks the integrity necessary to be part of the survival cell unless it’s ridiculous (and paragraph 1 is even worse), and its disintegration would have a very high likelihood of killing the pilot, and harming spectators. If you swivel from the outside of the survival cell you now need even more hardware to swivel the entire cell, which means you need more structure to hold the car together (under up to 9G race loads) around the swivel, thus making paragraph 1 yet again worse, as you’ll have yet more space requirements, and weight distribution changes. Also it’ll likely fail on back to back turns (e.g. Istanbul’s 12, 13, 14 or Spa’s bus stop chicane).

johnwalkr 3y ago

Why do you presume that would be better? For one, it would make more blood drain from your brain.

otherme123 3y ago

The driver is not the limit. The grip + downforce is the limit: if they try to do the worse corner (e.g. Copse-Silverstone ~4G) any faster than they do, the problem won't be the driver fainting (like it could happen in extreme maneuvers at a fighter jet), but the car slidding out of the track.

justin66 3y ago

The required minimum level of athleticism among drivers has only increased over time, but "borderline superhumans" is a weird exaggeration. > Make cockpits tilt inwards. Sideways-g becomes down-g. The drivers who experience the greatest effect of g forces, really pushing the limits of what's practical for the human body throughout the duration of a race, are the ones racing on ovals (not F1 drivers). Those tracks are already vectoring the g force downward rather than to the side. For F1, most of their physical challenges come with the forces they experience during braking, and the effect of those forces on the neck. Doing something weird with the cant of the seat could theoretically change that pulling-the-head forward or to the side force into a pulling-the-head downward force, but if you think about what's really needed to do that (you're going to rotate the seat backwards ninety degrees? so the driver is looking at the sky when he's braking?) you can see the problem.