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I am curious how this will play out. This is great news for Tesla and probably good news for future Ford and GM EV owner. Bad news for all the CCS charge compan

I am curious how this will play out. This is great news for Tesla and probably good news for future Ford and GM EV owner. Bad news for all the CCS charge companies out there but honestly screw them. They are generally some of the worst experiences out there and maybe this forces them to actually be better. EA is genuinely one of the worst charging experiences I have ever had. The EA near my house is totally fine but while traveling it’s hit or miss. I tried using one last time because the Tesla supercharger had a 10min wait, I have an EA account, try to tap my account with my phone like always…does not work. Ok let me pay by credit card, it does not accept my main credit card so I use my backup, works. Charging starts then when my car gets to 60% it just stops, EA just stopped me. I try to restart the process and EA terminal says that I cannot charge anymore by credit card…What the heck. Just a terrible experience for something that should be so simple.

inetknght 3y ago
Imagine if gas stations could create a fuel subscription: we'll only fill your tank to 60% unless you pay $50/mo. If you subscribe now, your first month is free! Subscribers also get a $0.01 discount per gallon! Just imagine how that will go during an evacuation. It'll be advertised to go GREAT because fuel stations won't run out of gas!
- frumper 3y ago
  They could do that. It's probably a terrible business model, but they are 100% free to do that. Edit: What they can't do is upcharge the price of gas during the evacuation. That's gouging. As a regular price though, it's fine.
WorldMaker 3y ago
GM joining the parade likely means that CCS chargers in North America will have to upgrade to NACS (or die). Luckily it sounds like it should be a relatively straightforward upgrade for some of them: NACS still speaks the CCS data standards so a lot of firmware mostly doesn't need to change. I think the only real exception is that NACS mandates the CCS "plug and charge" standard and CCS1 left it "optional" for some dumb reasons. That NACS requirement, if it is indeed a requirement, will do a ton to clean up the other charger networks: fewer apps, fewer terminal interactions, just plug the car in and let it securely speak the user's CC information in the handshake.

inetknght 3y ago

Imagine if gas stations could create a fuel subscription: we'll only fill your tank to 60% unless you pay $50/mo. If you subscribe now, your first month is free! Subscribers also get a $0.01 discount per gallon! Just imagine how that will go during an evacuation. It'll be advertised to go GREAT because fuel stations won't run out of gas!

frumper 3y ago
They could do that. It's probably a terrible business model, but they are 100% free to do that. Edit: What they can't do is upcharge the price of gas during the evacuation. That's gouging. As a regular price though, it's fine.

WorldMaker 3y ago

GM joining the parade likely means that CCS chargers in North America will have to upgrade to NACS (or die). Luckily it sounds like it should be a relatively straightforward upgrade for some of them: NACS still speaks the CCS data standards so a lot of firmware mostly doesn't need to change. I think the only real exception is that NACS mandates the CCS "plug and charge" standard and CCS1 left it "optional" for some dumb reasons. That NACS requirement, if it is indeed a requirement, will do a ton to clean up the other charger networks: fewer apps, fewer terminal interactions, just plug the car in and let it securely speak the user's CC information in the handshake.