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"7 countries voted that it is" That's 7 out 193 countries. Hmm, I wonder why. By the way, the Ukraine itself didn't recognize the obvious genocide of Armenian

by gdy 3y ago

"7 countries voted that it is" That's 7 out 193 countries. Hmm, I wonder why. By the way, the Ukraine itself didn't recognize the obvious genocide of Armenians by Turkey during WW1.[0] Countries can be very flexible when recognizing or not recognizing something as genocide is in their interest. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide#International_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide#Internationa...

mcv 3y ago
I'm sure you understand why. Ukraine is in a vulnerable position right now and needs all the allies it can get. Alienating Turkey would be foolish. And considering the Armenian genocide happened a long time ago, it's not exactly worth it to bring this up now. Turkey, especially under Erdogan, is definitely a problematic country, but not one that either Ukraine or NATO can afford to alienate right now. Current issues take precedence over the atrocities of the past.
- gdy 3y ago
  "I'm sure you understand why. Ukraine is in a vulnerable position right now" Seriously? The Ukraine had over 30 years of independence for that.
  - mcv 3y ago
    What does that have to do with anything? Is this some kind of purity test for you? During their 30 years of independence, Ukraine has struggled with corruption, authoritarianism, two revolutions against authoritarianism, and a Russian invasion. They've had bigger fish to fry at home than to cast judgement on neighbouring countries. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide_recognition a total of 34 countries have recognised the Armenian genocide as genocide. That's not a lot. Even the UK and half of Scandinavia haven't. That Ukraine hasn't means nothing, it doesn't mean they don't consider it genocide, and it certainly doesn't mean they're okay with genocide. You're being overly anal about this issue.
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    - lovelyviking 3y ago
      Thank you for standing against lies and russian propaganda which doesn’t care about facts nor truth. Their insulting comment is not based on anything real just as their arguments. It serves as a form of mockery or dismissiveness towards you. It was used also to belittle and undermine the seriousness of the discussion. Typical for russian propaganda.
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by gdy 3y ago

mcv 3y ago

I'm sure you understand why. Ukraine is in a vulnerable position right now and needs all the allies it can get. Alienating Turkey would be foolish. And considering the Armenian genocide happened a long time ago, it's not exactly worth it to bring this up now. Turkey, especially under Erdogan, is definitely a problematic country, but not one that either Ukraine or NATO can afford to alienate right now. Current issues take precedence over the atrocities of the past.

gdy 3y ago
"I'm sure you understand why. Ukraine is in a vulnerable position right now" Seriously? The Ukraine had over 30 years of independence for that.
- mcv 3y ago
  What does that have to do with anything? Is this some kind of purity test for you? During their 30 years of independence, Ukraine has struggled with corruption, authoritarianism, two revolutions against authoritarianism, and a Russian invasion. They've had bigger fish to fry at home than to cast judgement on neighbouring countries. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide_recognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide_recognition a total of 34 countries have recognised the Armenian genocide as genocide. That's not a lot. Even the UK and half of Scandinavia haven't. That Ukraine hasn't means nothing, it doesn't mean they don't consider it genocide, and it certainly doesn't mean they're okay with genocide. You're being overly anal about this issue.
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  - lovelyviking 3y ago
    Thank you for standing against lies and russian propaganda which doesn’t care about facts nor truth. Their insulting comment is not based on anything real just as their arguments. It serves as a form of mockery or dismissiveness towards you. It was used also to belittle and undermine the seriousness of the discussion. Typical for russian propaganda.
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