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Sarcasm doesn't play well when talking about a sales deal. Parroting some reddit's user's words doesn't help, either. > I'd be worried about talking to someone

Sarcasm doesn't play well when talking about a sales deal. Parroting some reddit's user's words doesn't help, either. > I'd be worried about talking to someone who feels the need to be careful when they know the call is recorded. You'll do alright then in our nice little surveillance earth. Personally, I don't like to talk to people who record me without telling me so, no matter what I say.

zamadatix 3y ago
It usually doesn't doesn't, which is likely why he apologized for joking during the conversation at the same time Reddit apologized for misinterpreting what was said on multiple levels (both in the same audio clip). The point wasn't it was the best tactic that could have been used, just that it was clearly not a serious ask on his part where he expected them to actually buy it. And I don't like to talk to people uncomfortable with the idea I can verify what they said to me. Surveillance is one thing when it's a third party, but it's a completely different thing when it's the person you're already sharing the information with. In the former problems about who you intended to communicate with and a third party with more power than that initial two come into play, in the latter those don't exist (unless your goal is to publicly lie about the conversation and push the recording to be shared, as was done here, in which I have little sympathy for lamenting you can't rely on doing that with me). But yeah, not everyone agrees on this one. Even the law is highly varied in this regard.
- auggierose 3y ago
  A recording involves third-parties, otherwise you wouldn't need a recording. As we can see now, everyone, even fourth and tenth parties can listen to this recording by going to a website. You can even say that Steve didn't give in to blackmail tactics, and Christian then killed the hostage (published the recording). I don't see much of a motive here for Christian except for revenge of some form (probably for taking away a lucrative income stream). What is legal or not has not much to do with what is morally right or not, as the law is supposed to be objective, and morals are always subjective. In my book, publishing an unauthorised recording like that touches rock bottom morally.

zamadatix 3y ago

It usually doesn't doesn't, which is likely why he apologized for joking during the conversation at the same time Reddit apologized for misinterpreting what was said on multiple levels (both in the same audio clip). The point wasn't it was the best tactic that could have been used, just that it was clearly not a serious ask on his part where he expected them to actually buy it. And I don't like to talk to people uncomfortable with the idea I can verify what they said to me. Surveillance is one thing when it's a third party, but it's a completely different thing when it's the person you're already sharing the information with. In the former problems about who you intended to communicate with and a third party with more power than that initial two come into play, in the latter those don't exist (unless your goal is to publicly lie about the conversation and push the recording to be shared, as was done here, in which I have little sympathy for lamenting you can't rely on doing that with me). But yeah, not everyone agrees on this one. Even the law is highly varied in this regard.

auggierose 3y ago
A recording involves third-parties, otherwise you wouldn't need a recording. As we can see now, everyone, even fourth and tenth parties can listen to this recording by going to a website. You can even say that Steve didn't give in to blackmail tactics, and Christian then killed the hostage (published the recording). I don't see much of a motive here for Christian except for revenge of some form (probably for taking away a lucrative income stream). What is legal or not has not much to do with what is morally right or not, as the law is supposed to be objective, and morals are always subjective. In my book, publishing an unauthorised recording like that touches rock bottom morally.