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Because the OP here was actually mistaking things. For all we know there won't be a Tesla to CCS adapter that works on existing Ford/GM vehicles, it could be th

by judge2020 3y ago

Because the OP here was actually mistaking things. For all we know there won't be a Tesla to CCS adapter that works on existing Ford/GM vehicles, it could be that only Ford/GM vehicles with the NACS connector will get to use all superchargers. And Tesla has already opened up charging to all EVs on some superchargers via the Magic Dock, but the situation isn't amazing, especially with many new cars using an 800 volt architecture and thus not charging super fast on Tesla's 400 volt superchargers. https://youtu.be/pUYqDNCIFD8 https://youtu.be/pUYqDNCIFD8 Combine this with how many charge port doors aren't on the back left or front right, and you have a really messy charging situation with blocked spots and slow charging cars. The partnership most likely means: - The cars will be 400 volt architecture (or otherwise 800v and upcoming V4 superchargers will support up to 1000 volts) - The charging port door will be either on the front right quarter of the car, or back left quarter.

_ea1k 3y ago
In the Ford announcement, they promised an adapter.
- judge2020 3y ago
  I guess they'd only do it for maybe three model years or so, because theoretically over time even existing superchargers can be retrofitted with the magic dock (as V3s have).
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    TBH, a customer owned adapter is likely better than magic dock. Maybe easier to use too.
    - judge2020 3y ago
      The main purpose of the magic dock seems to be enabling anyone to roll up and pay for their charging session. If there were a personal charger, the car would have to also be updated to perform the NACS handshake and communicate with Tesla's backend for payment (note that all payment and charging is handled by the car, and with some hacks you can enable free unlimited supercharging which the supercharger doesn't do any verification of). Also, in the original announcement, I wonder if ford meant they'll give CCS to Tesla adapters[0] so that you can plug in on existing infra. 0: https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter

_ea1k 3y ago

In the Ford announcement, they promised an adapter.

judge2020 3y ago
I guess they'd only do it for maybe three model years or so, because theoretically over time even existing superchargers can be retrofitted with the magic dock (as V3s have).
- _ea1k 3y ago
  TBH, a customer owned adapter is likely better than magic dock. Maybe easier to use too.
  - judge2020 3y ago
    The main purpose of the magic dock seems to be enabling anyone to roll up and pay for their charging session. If there were a personal charger, the car would have to also be updated to perform the NACS handshake and communicate with Tesla's backend for payment (note that all payment and charging is handled by the car, and with some hacks you can enable free unlimited supercharging which the supercharger doesn't do any verification of). Also, in the original announcement, I wonder if ford meant they'll give CCS to Tesla adapters[0] so that you can plug in on existing infra. 0: https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter