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Reading the headlines, I'm in Apollo's camp. But holy moly, this guy does himself no favors with extremely hard to follow comms where he is trying to make a dea

by tomrod 3y ago

Reading the headlines, I'm in Apollo's camp. But holy moly, this guy does himself no favors with extremely hard to follow comms where he is trying to make a deal: https://gist.github.com/christianselig/fda7e8bc5a25aec9824f915e6a5c7014 https://gist.github.com/christianselig/fda7e8bc5a25aec9824f9... (This is Apollo's lead dev). Again, I'm not an apologist for Reddit -- their pricing is absurd -- my point is simply this drama seems expounded because of frankly bad comms. EDIT: its also nuts that /u/spez is relaying the exchange as a threat?!?

plewd 3y ago
That conversation was so confusing to follow, and the usage of the idioms like "Bob's your uncle" did not help in the slightest (had to search that one up)
riku_iki 3y ago
so, how it could happen that he recorded it without consent of other party?
- notwhereyouare 3y ago
  Canada is a single party consent country. He was the one who needed to consent to his recording
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    Yes, you are right. But he is also reddit customer, uses reddit api and legally obligated to follow terms and conditions, and they have confidentiality clause about communication there: https://www.reddit.com/wiki/api-terms/ https://www.reddit.com/wiki/api-terms/ I guess they can now sue him and request to pay damages, which likely will be large. Also, according to random article in internet, California law requires him to ask consent too: Generally, if both parties are within the same state, the state law will apply. When one party is in California and the other one is outside the state, the two-party consent rule applies to actors outside of California, if they are communicating with people in California who have not given consent. Essentially, California protects those in the state from being recorded without their consent even where the out-of-state actor is in a state which permits “one party consent.
    - lewisflude 3y ago
      As he’s Canadian, does US state law apply?
      - riku_iki 3y ago
        I think so, the same as for n.korean hacker penetrating California corp system.
        lewisflude 3y ago
        Makes sense, thanks for the clarification!

by tomrod 3y ago

plewd 3y ago

That conversation was so confusing to follow, and the usage of the idioms like "Bob's your uncle" did not help in the slightest (had to search that one up)

riku_iki 3y ago

so, how it could happen that he recorded it without consent of other party?

notwhereyouare 3y ago
Canada is a single party consent country. He was the one who needed to consent to his recording
- riku_iki 3y ago
  Yes, you are right. But he is also reddit customer, uses reddit api and legally obligated to follow terms and conditions, and they have confidentiality clause about communication there: https://www.reddit.com/wiki/api-terms/ https://www.reddit.com/wiki/api-terms/ I guess they can now sue him and request to pay damages, which likely will be large. Also, according to random article in internet, California law requires him to ask consent too: Generally, if both parties are within the same state, the state law will apply. When one party is in California and the other one is outside the state, the two-party consent rule applies to actors outside of California, if they are communicating with people in California who have not given consent. Essentially, California protects those in the state from being recorded without their consent even where the out-of-state actor is in a state which permits “one party consent.
  - lewisflude 3y ago
    As he’s Canadian, does US state law apply?
    - riku_iki 3y ago
      I think so, the same as for n.korean hacker penetrating California corp system.
      - lewisflude 3y ago
        Makes sense, thanks for the clarification!