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>It might be useful to "all be in the room" when brainstorming. Hasn't every study on brainstorming found that it's not a good way to generate good ideas? With

>It might be useful to "all be in the room" when brainstorming. Hasn't every study on brainstorming found that it's not a good way to generate good ideas? With having people breathing the same air in a small space believed to be a contributing factor to that.

kpw94 3y ago
Yeah high CO2 concentration is probably making people less sharp, but mostly I've heard it's about people being less creative due to consensus-driven thinking Per https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1194301106584616960 https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1194301106584616960: > People in groups self-censor and anchor on each others ideas, reducing creativity. Also can be anti-inclusive when "anchor on each other idea" is a euphemism for that guy repeating what a more shy person said, but louder, stealing credit. With remote, usually comes a more doc-driven culture, where someone's original idea can be easier to identify and make sure they get credit.
- BenisMaximus 3y ago
  Lots of people are too shy or anxious to break perceived consensus or even just to challenge a "stronger" personality in person. Put them in a chat room and they get all fired up.
  - heavyset_go 3y ago
    And in dysfunctional workplaces, breaking consensus can put your job in jeopardy.
- regularfry 3y ago
  I have a hunch that the sort of mental incapacity that comes on with higher CO2 levels lends itself to group-think, so it's a combinatorial problem. I think you'd still get the same problems outside, I just think they're more pronounced in a stuffy meeting room.
maerF0x0 3y ago
Yes. Brainstorming is better done by 1. Brainstorming questions, not ideas (then go answer them) 2. Soliciting responses anonymously and quietly. This avoids both hierarchical biases and "Loudest person wins" bias. And not to excessively disparage verbal processors (I am one myself). But it's important for them to realize that the constant talking can drown out others' thinking, or their sharing, or their will to live.
spacemadness 3y ago
I’ve experienced recently people thinking they were doing some creative brainstorming and being productive by being in person collaborating in a big room, but the output ends up being basically the same solution or idea that was created using remote collaboration. And of course everyone’s exhausted at the end after a week of “collaborating” for 8-10 hours a day. It seems like it was mostly theatre.

kpw94 3y ago

Yeah high CO2 concentration is probably making people less sharp, but mostly I've heard it's about people being less creative due to consensus-driven thinking Per https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1194301106584616960 https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1194301106584616960: > People in groups self-censor and anchor on each others ideas, reducing creativity. Also can be anti-inclusive when "anchor on each other idea" is a euphemism for that guy repeating what a more shy person said, but louder, stealing credit. With remote, usually comes a more doc-driven culture, where someone's original idea can be easier to identify and make sure they get credit.

BenisMaximus 3y ago
Lots of people are too shy or anxious to break perceived consensus or even just to challenge a "stronger" personality in person. Put them in a chat room and they get all fired up.
- heavyset_go 3y ago
  And in dysfunctional workplaces, breaking consensus can put your job in jeopardy.
regularfry 3y ago
I have a hunch that the sort of mental incapacity that comes on with higher CO2 levels lends itself to group-think, so it's a combinatorial problem. I think you'd still get the same problems outside, I just think they're more pronounced in a stuffy meeting room.

maerF0x0 3y ago

Yes. Brainstorming is better done by 1. Brainstorming questions, not ideas (then go answer them) 2. Soliciting responses anonymously and quietly. This avoids both hierarchical biases and "Loudest person wins" bias. And not to excessively disparage verbal processors (I am one myself). But it's important for them to realize that the constant talking can drown out others' thinking, or their sharing, or their will to live.

spacemadness 3y ago

I’ve experienced recently people thinking they were doing some creative brainstorming and being productive by being in person collaborating in a big room, but the output ends up being basically the same solution or idea that was created using remote collaboration. And of course everyone’s exhausted at the end after a week of “collaborating” for 8-10 hours a day. It seems like it was mostly theatre.