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Looking for another round of layoffs, eh?

jleyank 3y ago
Yup. Oppressing workers might be fun and it doesn't cost in severance as long as you don't set up a lawsuit. Might not even cost unemployment based on state/province rules.
- lockhouse 3y ago
  "Oppressing" seems a bit much here. That's great that you prefer working from home, but if the people paying your salary don't share you view on this matter, it is hardly a violation of your rights as a worker.
  - jleyank 3y ago
    Was thinking more of people stating that the job parameters were unilaterally changed on the fly. Hired for remote work, sorry, that's been changed, etc. Yeah, it's at will employment, but not everybody likes employment agreements being changed without their input. Sorry if it seemed flippant but it seemed to convey in a few words what I just wrote in a paragraph. I always viewed "negative job actions" with a jaundiced eye, and started a job search. And I fully believe that getting people to leave is the intent.
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Oppression means more than just jackbooted thugs kicking in your door, you know. American companies do stuff to workers daily that would result in them being dissolved and their executives fined into bankruptcy or even jailed here.
  - JamesLeonis 3y ago
    The purchaser of work maintains his right as a purchaser to insist working from an office. The seller of work maintains his right as a seller to insist working from home. Between equal rights, Force decides.
    - s1artibartfast 3y ago
      Not force but power Leverage and need. Nobody's going to come to your house and drag you into the office. They will however stop paying you. Because you can't force farmer to give you food, you will eventually end up back at the negotiating table and back in the office
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olliej 3y ago
No, their first step is to create an environment where mass layoffs are a thing, so people are afraid of them and the ability to freely move to another company is limited, that way you have no negotiating power. Then they make your life miserable. This makes you quit (which is free for them), or tells them that they’re free to shit on you some more.
- azraeldv 3y ago
  if you are an unskilled worker, your negotiating power is limited solution : be a skilled worker unless there was any legal contract with specific terms and agreement between employers and employee beforehand, this will always be a free market thing, but what kind of market are you proposing? is it a market where everyone work the same job and shit on the same pants?
  - olliej 3y ago
    This is literally an article about skilled workers?

Yup. Oppressing workers might be fun and it doesn't cost in severance as long as you don't set up a lawsuit. Might not even cost unemployment based on state/province rules.

lockhouse 3y ago
"Oppressing" seems a bit much here. That's great that you prefer working from home, but if the people paying your salary don't share you view on this matter, it is hardly a violation of your rights as a worker.
- jleyank 3y ago
  Was thinking more of people stating that the job parameters were unilaterally changed on the fly. Hired for remote work, sorry, that's been changed, etc. Yeah, it's at will employment, but not everybody likes employment agreements being changed without their input. Sorry if it seemed flippant but it seemed to convey in a few words what I just wrote in a paragraph. I always viewed "negative job actions" with a jaundiced eye, and started a job search. And I fully believe that getting people to leave is the intent.
- flangola7 3y ago
  Oppression means more than just jackbooted thugs kicking in your door, you know. American companies do stuff to workers daily that would result in them being dissolved and their executives fined into bankruptcy or even jailed here.
- JamesLeonis 3y ago
  The purchaser of work maintains his right as a purchaser to insist working from an office. The seller of work maintains his right as a seller to insist working from home. Between equal rights, Force decides.
  - s1artibartfast 3y ago
    Not force but power Leverage and need. Nobody's going to come to your house and drag you into the office. They will however stop paying you. Because you can't force farmer to give you food, you will eventually end up back at the negotiating table and back in the office
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olliej 3y ago

No, their first step is to create an environment where mass layoffs are a thing, so people are afraid of them and the ability to freely move to another company is limited, that way you have no negotiating power. Then they make your life miserable. This makes you quit (which is free for them), or tells them that they’re free to shit on you some more.

azraeldv 3y ago
if you are an unskilled worker, your negotiating power is limited solution : be a skilled worker unless there was any legal contract with specific terms and agreement between employers and employee beforehand, this will always be a free market thing, but what kind of market are you proposing? is it a market where everyone work the same job and shit on the same pants?
- olliej 3y ago
  This is literally an article about skilled workers?