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It’d be nice if the Haskell subreddit found a new home. I don’t know why Reddit is so generally toxic, but it is.

nerdchum 3y ago
It's because like four moderators control like most of the main subreddits.
hifromLA 3y ago
You’d be hard pressed to find social media that doesn’t trend towards toxicity, but Reddit in particular seems to have a culture of users that want to feel superior at any cost. They’re always looking to put down others and they’re often rewarded for doing so.
- ipaddr 3y ago
  I've found it to be overly hostile over the years in any tech sub but also in anything political. Meanwhile the really interesting subs have been push away
- willis936 3y ago
  It's the public point system. HN identified this accurately and early.
  - l33t233372 3y ago
    I’m not sure what you mean about HN identifying this. Aren’t HN’s points public?
    - fotta 3y ago
      Points on individual comments aren't. But they are still ranked so in a way the effect is still there, just reduced.
    - HWR_14 3y ago
      Your point count is public. The score on your comments is not.
    - willis936 3y ago
      I can't see how many points your comment has and I don't think you can see how many mine has. All we know is that a majority of others have not downvoted our comments because they are not grey. This breaks up the impulse to dogpile or blindly conformally agree. It asks users to think about their votes because it removes the motivations to be impulsive.
  - andai 3y ago
    Also, the culture of civility (and contributing something meaningful) is strictly enforced. The mods are hard at work making sure HN stays a place worth visiting.
mhitza 3y ago
https://discourse.haskell.org https://discourse.haskell.org could be that new home. However most new users would expect a programming subreddit language to exist.
- dylan604 3y ago
  maybe that's the problem? there are much better avenues of getting help for programming than reddit. i'm saying that as someone that not once has ever visited reddit for a programming bit of advice. every web search i have ever done for programming has been found elsewhere. clearly, i am not everyone, but for those that think this is doom, there is greener grass in other pastures.
tikhonj 3y ago
We set up https://discourse.haskell.org https://discourse.haskell.org a few years ago. It's reasonably active, but topics still tend to get more engagement on /r/haskell. I expect it comes down to discoverability and convenience: people are already have accounts on Reddit, know to look for topical subreddits there and are comfortable with it. It would be great to get more people on the Discourse rather than Reddit. Would love to hear suggestions for making it easier for people to find!

It's because like four moderators control like most of the main subreddits.

You’d be hard pressed to find social media that doesn’t trend towards toxicity, but Reddit in particular seems to have a culture of users that want to feel superior at any cost. They’re always looking to put down others and they’re often rewarded for doing so.

ipaddr 3y ago
I've found it to be overly hostile over the years in any tech sub but also in anything political. Meanwhile the really interesting subs have been push away
willis936 3y ago
It's the public point system. HN identified this accurately and early.
- l33t233372 3y ago
  I’m not sure what you mean about HN identifying this. Aren’t HN’s points public?
  - fotta 3y ago
    Points on individual comments aren't. But they are still ranked so in a way the effect is still there, just reduced.
  - HWR_14 3y ago
    Your point count is public. The score on your comments is not.
  - willis936 3y ago
    I can't see how many points your comment has and I don't think you can see how many mine has. All we know is that a majority of others have not downvoted our comments because they are not grey. This breaks up the impulse to dogpile or blindly conformally agree. It asks users to think about their votes because it removes the motivations to be impulsive.
- andai 3y ago
  Also, the culture of civility (and contributing something meaningful) is strictly enforced. The mods are hard at work making sure HN stays a place worth visiting.

mhitza 3y ago

https://discourse.haskell.org https://discourse.haskell.org could be that new home. However most new users would expect a programming subreddit language to exist.

dylan604 3y ago
maybe that's the problem? there are much better avenues of getting help for programming than reddit. i'm saying that as someone that not once has ever visited reddit for a programming bit of advice. every web search i have ever done for programming has been found elsewhere. clearly, i am not everyone, but for those that think this is doom, there is greener grass in other pastures.

tikhonj 3y ago

We set up https://discourse.haskell.org https://discourse.haskell.org a few years ago. It's reasonably active, but topics still tend to get more engagement on /r/haskell. I expect it comes down to discoverability and convenience: people are already have accounts on Reddit, know to look for topical subreddits there and are comfortable with it. It would be great to get more people on the Discourse rather than Reddit. Would love to hear suggestions for making it easier for people to find!