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It's incredible for the industry, most of these non-Tesla EV's were effectively unusable outside daily use due to poor charging infrastructure. Now they're not,

• Arainach 3y ago
  Incredible for the industry would be requiring a standard connector for all brands so that Tesla would switch its charging stations to the standard connector. This has worked just fine in Europe.
  • leesec 3y ago
    They would still have to build out a charging infrastructure tho wouldn't they? This skips that step for now, they can still build out there own standard if they'd like
    • vel0city 3y ago
      I shouldn't be beholden to a car manufacturer for charging my car. Imagine if all gas stations were Ford stations.
      • _ea1k 3y ago
        It is a legitimate concern, tbh. But there's nothing stopping third parties from adding this plug to their stations. Most support two cables, so doing both isn't a big lift.
        • vel0city 3y ago
          > But there's nothing stopping third parties from adding this plug to their stations. Sure seems like there are seeing as how finding a dispenser with both CCS and Tesla is like finding a unicorn. You'd think someone would have been rolling them out years ago alongside Tesla.
          • _ea1k 3y ago
            EVGo has done it, but they've done it by using chademo adapters strapped to the side of the unit. Most of that was before Tesla added support for CCS signaling to the cars. Also, they did it in the most EVGo way possible. There was a high traffic route near me with no superchargers. EVGo had a location, but no adapter. But EVGo would put units like that in the same parking lot as supercharger. :facepalm More recently, a lot of manufacturers want to do it, but there's a different constraint. High quality cable and connector manufacturers are not yet making Tesla connectors in volume. Tesla doesn't sell their own cables and connectors to third parties. I'm hearing that this will all change by next year, though. At least one charger company (Freewire, IIRC) has committed to using them.
          • frumper 3y ago
            As a Tesla owner, I generally have no need for any non-Tesla chargers. Tesla's network has been everywhere I want to go and has been reliable. I have an adapter in case, but the only time I've used it is just to try it out to see how it works. That probably doesn't make me the target market of the other networks.
            • vel0city 3y ago
              Tesla drivers mostly don't have a choice at the moment, unless they knew about and bothered buying the expensive CCS adapter at the moment. If there were third party natively Tesla compatible chargers (including payment negotiation), are you really saying you'd never use them? Like, if your hotel had a third party one, or there was the Tesla one off the highway a few miles away, you'd go.out of your way to go to the Tesla one? What if the third party ones were cheaper? I totally get most Tesla owners ignoring CCS chargers currently. Most owners don't have adapters, many chargers would require some app for a subpar billing experience, people don't like the connector, etc. But I wouldn't understand people choosing Tesla ones over similarly equipped ones. It'd be like driving well out of your way to always use Shell stations while you pass up an Exxon, a Phillips, a Wawa, etc.
              • frumper 3y ago
  • cptskippy 3y ago
    What's the benefit of adopting CCS Combo 1 as the standard over NACS? CCS Combo 1 is incompatible with Combo 2. 67% of EVs shipped in North American in Q3 2022 supported NACS. While that % may have gone down in subsequent quarters, it goes up historically. That means the majority of EVs in North America already support NACS. It's far easier for other manufacturers to adopt NACS than it is for Tesla to adopt CCS Combo 1.