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Very interesting insight into the Explorer development, thanks for posting the link! Some (possibly) interesting comments: - "later I think TI made (or tried
by johndoe0815 3y ago
Very interesting insight into the Explorer development, thanks for posting the link!
Some (possibly) interesting comments:
- "later I think TI made (or tried to make) a plug-in card version of the TI Explorer for Macs" - this was the MicroExplorer NuBus card for Mac II-series machines, which was somewhat popular. Symbolics also built a NuBus Lisp machine board for Macs.
- "This machine had one of the largest CPUs ever made until that time, something like half a million transistors." The original version of the Explorer (Explorer I) implemented the CPU in TTL logic (plus microcode ROMs and PROMs to implement some logic functions) on two large NuBus boards, the integrated version was later used in the Explorer II and MicroExplorer.
- "the entire computer division was sold off to HP soon after I left" - one of the sad stories, HP destroyed a number of companies after they took over. In addition to TI's computer department (the TI990 16 bit machines were sold to some other company), Apollo, Tandem and DEC (via Compaq) suffered a similar fate.
- "Pretty sure the sale included a sweet little Unix box". This was the TI1500, a 680x0-based asymmetric multiprocessor machine running TI System V (SVR3) with some pretty advanced concepts for its time (such as software RAID/striping), which was also based on NuBus. You could add a TI 68020 CPU board to an Explorer and run Unix on the side. I used to service and admin TI1500 machines as a student and am possibly the last person on Earth with the source code for TI's version of gcc (a horribly hacked version of gcc-1.37 in which the TI-specific code was #ifdef'd into the hp300 backend...). Back in the 90s, I had to request the code from TI in the US (after the division was sold to HP) and received a QIC tape with the gcc/binutils code some weeks later.
The whole NuBus system was based on the NuMachine concept developed at MIT and later Western Digital (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuMachine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuMachine). TI bought the rights to NuBus in 1983, Apple and NeXT later adopted the system for their 68k machines. It would be interesting to know why they didn't go with Motorola's own VME bus.
Fun trivia: Swissair used to run their whole booking system on TI Explorers and for some years in the 90s tried to buy every used Explorer system that was available to keep their systems running after the hardware was discontinued (http://lemonodor.com/archives/2002/10/ti_explorer_fam.html http://lemonodor.com/archives/2002/10/ti_explorer_fam.html).
- neilv 3y agoLooks like a NuMachine board with serial number "0004" (pre-production?) sold on eBay the other day: https://www.ebay.com/itm/266267742263 https://www.ebay.com/itm/266267742263
- johndoe0815 3y agoNice - lots of AMD 29xx microcode stuff on there, I never saw any of the original NuMachines before.
- Suzuran 3y agoThat wasn't a NuMachine processor, it's something else. The NuMachine processor was a single board with a 68k and some custom memory mapping stuff on it. Later it was reused with minor changes as the LMI Unix processor.
- p_l 3y agoLMI Lambda, which is essentially Explorer's direct ancestor, used NuBus as well, including the possibility of putting a 68k Unix system as a board into the card cage. The biggest theoretical setup AFAIK was a 2X2 Lambda + Unix card - essentially two LMI Lambda CPUs, the Unix CPU, plus memory cards. The I/O subsystem ran from yet another CPU that implemented access to multibus cards and served as front end processor for management purposes. The NuBus interface itself AFAIK predates 32bit VMEbus, being designed in late 1970s as part of NuMachine project.
- johndoe0815 3y agoInteresting - it seems that TI bought a 25 percent equity in LMI in 1983. This was even mentioned in the New York Times back then... https://www.nytimes.com/1983/09/02/business/lisp-stake-bought.html https://www.nytimes.com/1983/09/02/business/lisp-stake-bough...
- pinewurst 3y agoEffectively it was TI that put LMI out of business, even more so than Symbolics, by selling their OS and architecture in a lower cost, more deeply discounted configuration.