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Huh. I personally don’t get the issue this individual has with Hacker News. So I assume I'm part of the problem, then?

by MrGilbert 3y ago

Traubenfuchs 3y ago
So far I have seen nothing but fawning for the project and its devs on here.
- mbStavola 3y ago
  There have been many comments regarding Asahi Lina that were outwardly hateful or borderline so. Some of it moderated, but definitely not all. I do not blame the project for not wanting to associate with HN.
  - rezaprima 3y ago
    I personally don't have reason to hate Lina. How come?
- hn_thrwn 3y ago
  Hn has a taste for shadow banning. You don't get to see what people post because a majority of posts on threads aren't shown to anyone but the author. This place is the iceberg meme basically.
  - ComputerGuru 3y ago
    Even if that were true (it’s not) how does that hurt the linked site?
    - hn_thrwn 3y ago
      The people who can't be heard here still click links. For some reason the terminally online think that banning people makes them disappear in the real world too.
aardvark179 3y ago
I don’t know what the problem is in this particular case, but from experience in some other areas getting attention on here is not universally positive. If there is something on here about a specific language feature or issue then we do see a small uptick in informed and useful discussion, but also we sometimes see a much bigger uptick in comments that are uninformed, unhelpful, or just need to get deleted. If that happened a few times to the Asahi Linux folks I can definitely understand them wanting to block this place.
- deleted 3y ago
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pseudo0 3y ago
The project itself is popular, but HN allows people to talk about the fairly compelling circumstantial evidence that Asahi Lina is marcan's alter ego. Per previous discussion, they have /home/marcan and /home/lina on the same box [0], have the same hostname [1], and have similar accents and speaking patterns [2]. Marcan is free to do this, but it's completely bizarre behavior acted out in public which is now impacting the actual Asahi project. Doing v-tubing under a pseudonym is one thing, but maintaining a sockpuppet contributor on a major open source project and pretending to interact with it is a giant red flag. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601

Huh. I personally don’t get the issue this individual has with Hacker News. So I assume I'm part of the problem, then?

Traubenfuchs 3y ago

So far I have seen nothing but fawning for the project and its devs on here.

mbStavola 3y ago
There have been many comments regarding Asahi Lina that were outwardly hateful or borderline so. Some of it moderated, but definitely not all. I do not blame the project for not wanting to associate with HN.
- rezaprima 3y ago
  I personally don't have reason to hate Lina. How come?
hn_thrwn 3y ago
Hn has a taste for shadow banning. You don't get to see what people post because a majority of posts on threads aren't shown to anyone but the author. This place is the iceberg meme basically.
- ComputerGuru 3y ago
  Even if that were true (it’s not) how does that hurt the linked site?
  - hn_thrwn 3y ago
    The people who can't be heard here still click links. For some reason the terminally online think that banning people makes them disappear in the real world too.

aardvark179 3y ago

I don’t know what the problem is in this particular case, but from experience in some other areas getting attention on here is not universally positive. If there is something on here about a specific language feature or issue then we do see a small uptick in informed and useful discussion, but also we sometimes see a much bigger uptick in comments that are uninformed, unhelpful, or just need to get deleted. If that happened a few times to the Asahi Linux folks I can definitely understand them wanting to block this place.

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pseudo0 3y ago

The project itself is popular, but HN allows people to talk about the fairly compelling circumstantial evidence that Asahi Lina is marcan's alter ego. Per previous discussion, they have /home/marcan and /home/lina on the same box [0], have the same hostname [1], and have similar accents and speaking patterns [2]. Marcan is free to do this, but it's completely bizarre behavior acted out in public which is now impacting the actual Asahi project. Doing v-tubing under a pseudonym is one thing, but maintaining a sockpuppet contributor on a major open source project and pretending to interact with it is a giant red flag. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601