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Amusing that you're saying this when Tesla requires an app to set up your car for charging in the first place. Sure, you don't need an app at the point of sale,

Amusing that you're saying this when Tesla requires an app to set up your car for charging in the first place. Sure, you don't need an app at the point of sale, but I'd argue tying your car permanently to your identity is even worse. I'm also not sure where people have needed an app to charge. In my experience at both EVGo and Electrify America stations, the credit card readers work just fine. I've never made an account for either of them. ChargePoint is the exception, but their system is extra stupid (you need to use the app, then NFC your phone)

dheera 3y ago
For me it's less about identity and more about just the damn charger working. I've never had an official Tesla charger fail to charge when plugged in. Their maintenance is top notch. The apps hardly work, and it doesn't help that I have to fiddle with a map and a list to find the charger I'm standing in front of by some name like "Agustin" or "Bashir", instead of just scanning a QR code or NFC tapping the physical plug which would have been a much better experience. ChargePoint works well; EVGo almost never works. EA usually works after unplugging and plugging and trying about 3-4 times.
toomuchtodo 3y ago
You car is tied to your identity with your VIN and registration. These records are available to anyone willing to pay a nominal fee. If you rent, auto rental company has your drivers license on file. (caveat being if you register your car in Montana using an anonymous LLC with an agent)
CameronNemo 3y ago
They seriously don't let you set up an account on their website? Ugh. I never said Tesla was better, though. I've mostly used chargepoint (and Volta, heh). I used evgo quite some time ago and thought they pushed you to use the app. My sister recently used an evgo for a rental car and she said she had to install an app.
- flounder3 3y ago
  Chargepoint requires you to maintain an account balance, and requires auto-refills. You can't just bill a CC for the entirety of a session through the app/site. Sometimes you can initiate a non-linked session with an EMV tap from a physical card, but that doesn't always work.
vel0city 3y ago
> Amusing that you're saying this when Tesla requires an app to set up your car for charging in the first place. Sounds terrible. I shouldn't need an app to drive my car.
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dheera 3y ago

For me it's less about identity and more about just the damn charger working. I've never had an official Tesla charger fail to charge when plugged in. Their maintenance is top notch. The apps hardly work, and it doesn't help that I have to fiddle with a map and a list to find the charger I'm standing in front of by some name like "Agustin" or "Bashir", instead of just scanning a QR code or NFC tapping the physical plug which would have been a much better experience. ChargePoint works well; EVGo almost never works. EA usually works after unplugging and plugging and trying about 3-4 times.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

You car is tied to your identity with your VIN and registration. These records are available to anyone willing to pay a nominal fee. If you rent, auto rental company has your drivers license on file. (caveat being if you register your car in Montana using an anonymous LLC with an agent)

CameronNemo 3y ago

They seriously don't let you set up an account on their website? Ugh. I never said Tesla was better, though. I've mostly used chargepoint (and Volta, heh). I used evgo quite some time ago and thought they pushed you to use the app. My sister recently used an evgo for a rental car and she said she had to install an app.

flounder3 3y ago
Chargepoint requires you to maintain an account balance, and requires auto-refills. You can't just bill a CC for the entirety of a session through the app/site. Sometimes you can initiate a non-linked session with an EMV tap from a physical card, but that doesn't always work.

vel0city 3y ago

> Amusing that you're saying this when Tesla requires an app to set up your car for charging in the first place. Sounds terrible. I shouldn't need an app to drive my car.

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