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The problem is, a very very very large portion of the mods are using third party apps. If the mods go away (because their tools don't work anymore), reddit will

The problem is, a very very very large portion of the mods are using third party apps. If the mods go away (because their tools don't work anymore), reddit will have a very big problem on their hands.

donnythecroc 3y ago
Yes people are missing the point here. I'm in Australia and I know when I check reddit groups moderated in other countries they are full of hate - like 4chan when the mods are asleep. I've seen an unmoderated reddit even just for a few hours, the site will be destroyed if people give up their unpaid voluntary work. They need the tools because it's not their fulltime job.
dbg31415 3y ago
Exactly. Reddit without auto mod tools (that require API access) gets over run with hate speech and incels. Reddit won’t work without API access… it just turns into a 4Chan-like cesspool over night without auto moderation.
- ronsor 3y ago
  I honestly hope so. A 4chan-tier cesspool would completely ruin their IPO.
ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
Based on many of the mods' behavior, that might actually be a big win for users. Their persecution and abuse of users makes Reddit the cesspool that it is. After all, Reddit is so shitty that HN will ban you for pointing out behavior here as "Reddit-like."
- brookst 3y ago
  Is your comment here more Reddit-like, or more HN-like?
  - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
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    - tinus_hn 3y ago
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    - arp242 3y ago
      > "Dumb question, but why is OS or browser support necessary? Couldn't an HTML canvas element and some JS that can parse the file format display any kind of image that you might want?" That one is not downvoted currently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36203733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36203733 Sometimes posts get downvotes "in the noise"; I've had some of my posts go to -1 or even -2 before jumping to >30. It happens; people have axes to grind, think you're stupid for asking a question, etc. and by chance sometimes they cluster just after you posted. Don't assign too much value to it; it's very rare that I see a normal on-topic question like that downvoted.
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        arp242 3y ago
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- JohnFen 3y ago
  > Their persecution and abuse of users makes Reddit the cesspool that it is. That's not what made Reddit seem like a cesspool to me. It was the commenters.
  - Alupis 3y ago
    Just wait until you've been banned on sub's you've never visited before - because you made a comment somewhere else on reddit. Mods can be great, and many of them are. But... there's plenty of bad ones out there that make participating in some communities stifling at best.
    - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
      That is one of the exact things I'm talking about. Mass banning from subs you don't even participate in, or that could not have been related to whatever you're being persecuted for.
  - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
    I'm sure there are plenty of bad ones. But I haven't participated in groups where those have been a problem. I was banned from all field-recording-related subs because I asked a question about microphones, and the lack of a particular kind in the market. More people piled in, and eventually we contacted the CEO of a mic company who engaged with us and said he'd make a modified version of a product if enough people expressed interest. Everyone involved with the thread was banned and it was deleted, with no excuse. I never raised the topic again, but was immediately banned from another recording-related sub when I answered a question about a recorder... as if my account had been flagged by some inbred cabal to auto-ban if I ever showed up. This behavior utterly defeated the purpose of the forums and stole from users. Yes, stole. It's time that people took stock of the fact that the time we spend to compose questions and answers on forums is not free, and those who deliberately steal it should be called out every time.
- dang 3y ago
  We don't ban accounts for that sort of reason, so I'd like to know which account(s) you're talking about.
  - tptacek 3y ago
    I read it as a hyperbolic restatement of the Semi Noob Illusion Clause. Oh --- wow --- another SNI clause!
  - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
    I don't remember now, but thanks for asking.
    - dang 3y ago
      You're welcome, and it's ok - I get how hard it is to remember these things and also how easily it can seem like we've banned an account for a bad or unfair reason. If you (or anyone) have that impression again in the future, you're welcome to ask. In a few cases there are details we can't disclose, but in most cases we're working with information that's public (like comment histories) and can tell you why we banned an account. You might not disagree with the reason and that's fine, but I'd rather that people disagree with the actual reason and not an incorrect one.
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donnythecroc 3y ago

Yes people are missing the point here. I'm in Australia and I know when I check reddit groups moderated in other countries they are full of hate - like 4chan when the mods are asleep. I've seen an unmoderated reddit even just for a few hours, the site will be destroyed if people give up their unpaid voluntary work. They need the tools because it's not their fulltime job.

dbg31415 3y ago

Exactly. Reddit without auto mod tools (that require API access) gets over run with hate speech and incels. Reddit won’t work without API access… it just turns into a 4Chan-like cesspool over night without auto moderation.

ronsor 3y ago
I honestly hope so. A 4chan-tier cesspool would completely ruin their IPO.

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago

Based on many of the mods' behavior, that might actually be a big win for users. Their persecution and abuse of users makes Reddit the cesspool that it is. After all, Reddit is so shitty that HN will ban you for pointing out behavior here as "Reddit-like."

brookst 3y ago
Is your comment here more Reddit-like, or more HN-like?
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
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  - tinus_hn 3y ago
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  - arp242 3y ago
    > "Dumb question, but why is OS or browser support necessary? Couldn't an HTML canvas element and some JS that can parse the file format display any kind of image that you might want?" That one is not downvoted currently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36203733 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36203733 Sometimes posts get downvotes "in the noise"; I've had some of my posts go to -1 or even -2 before jumping to >30. It happens; people have axes to grind, think you're stupid for asking a question, etc. and by chance sometimes they cluster just after you posted. Don't assign too much value to it; it's very rare that I see a normal on-topic question like that downvoted.
    - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
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      - arp242 3y ago
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        ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
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JohnFen 3y ago
> Their persecution and abuse of users makes Reddit the cesspool that it is. That's not what made Reddit seem like a cesspool to me. It was the commenters.
- Alupis 3y ago
  Just wait until you've been banned on sub's you've never visited before - because you made a comment somewhere else on reddit. Mods can be great, and many of them are. But... there's plenty of bad ones out there that make participating in some communities stifling at best.
  - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
    That is one of the exact things I'm talking about. Mass banning from subs you don't even participate in, or that could not have been related to whatever you're being persecuted for.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
  I'm sure there are plenty of bad ones. But I haven't participated in groups where those have been a problem. I was banned from all field-recording-related subs because I asked a question about microphones, and the lack of a particular kind in the market. More people piled in, and eventually we contacted the CEO of a mic company who engaged with us and said he'd make a modified version of a product if enough people expressed interest. Everyone involved with the thread was banned and it was deleted, with no excuse. I never raised the topic again, but was immediately banned from another recording-related sub when I answered a question about a recorder... as if my account had been flagged by some inbred cabal to auto-ban if I ever showed up. This behavior utterly defeated the purpose of the forums and stole from users. Yes, stole. It's time that people took stock of the fact that the time we spend to compose questions and answers on forums is not free, and those who deliberately steal it should be called out every time.
dang 3y ago
We don't ban accounts for that sort of reason, so I'd like to know which account(s) you're talking about.
- tptacek 3y ago
  I read it as a hyperbolic restatement of the Semi Noob Illusion Clause. Oh --- wow --- another SNI clause!
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
  I don't remember now, but thanks for asking.
  - dang 3y ago
    You're welcome, and it's ok - I get how hard it is to remember these things and also how easily it can seem like we've banned an account for a bad or unfair reason. If you (or anyone) have that impression again in the future, you're welcome to ask. In a few cases there are details we can't disclose, but in most cases we're working with information that's public (like comment histories) and can tell you why we banned an account. You might not disagree with the reason and that's fine, but I'd rather that people disagree with the actual reason and not an incorrect one.

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