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> is it possible that what Apple's doing is the simpler and better way to solve the problem? Pass-through AR strikes me as an old-school analog approach, like o
by jolmg 3y ago
> is it possible that what Apple's doing is the simpler and better way to solve the problem? Pass-through AR strikes me as an old-school analog approach, like optical printing for special effects.
I think they're different and not one better than the other. If I wanted to drive with an HMD on, or otherwise be in a situation where it could be deadly to have my sight turned off for even a second or to even have some lag or stutter or other glitch in my eyesight, I'd much rather have a pass-through AR HMD. One's sense of sight seems much more reliable with it by its very nature. You simply don't have those modes of failure with transparent plastic, no matter what's going on in the hardware/software.
- flangola7 3y agoYour steering wheel and pedals are digital too. Airliner controls have been digital for decades. Factories have life or death safety systems that count on silicon and a software stack to respond quickly and without error. Apple can make it possible if they wanted too.
- faitswulff 3y agoThese are all very different from the “HUD goes dark and my meat brain panics, causing me to get into an accident” scenario that GP is talking about.
- YetAnotherNick 3y agoThere are multiple system running on silicon that have been made to not go dark in normal mode of operation. Some examples could be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety-critical_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety-critical_system
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- sdeframond 3y agoI believe cars' steering are analog because it would too expensive to achieve the required level of reliability. Planes are crazy expensive anyway,so fly-by-wire can be afforded.
- Despegar 3y agoWhich is probably the point of the R1 and the real-time subsystem.
- jonplackett 3y agoYeah this is the most interesting bit in a way. Wearing the quest in pass though mode is kinda cool for a bit, but the lag makes it horrible to use for any more than checking where a wall is. If they really have made this feel instant that’s a massive deal on its own.
- numpad0 3y agoSteering is analog. One of reasons why by-wire steering control did not succeed is user feedback, it was tried and failed. Brake pedal is analog too, just assisted and override-able. Gas pedal had been all digital for some time. Also, it’s true that Airbus sidestick is fully electronic, but there’s a nuance in engine control being in the center on airplanes. Until automated, engine control on airliners was a task of a flight engineer, like it still is on ocean going ships. So fully digitalized engine control is a replacement to the FE, not necessarily an automation of what originally was a pilot’s task. Which means, I think, pushing a vehicle forward was never necessarily the responsibility of a pilot or a driver, though controlling where not to go is.
- fooker 3y ago>Steering is analog. This is changing rapidly. eg: https://www.infinitiusa.com/infiniti-news/technology/direct-adaptive-steering.html https://www.infinitiusa.com/infiniti-news/technology/direct-...
- numpad0 3y agoThat was the failed attempt I was referring to, literally a decade ago. Toyota is doing a retry with bZ4X/Lexus RZ, and those three are the only known cars to have passed prototype stages with (front wheel)Steer-By-Wire.
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- fennecfoxy 3y agoIf 1T Apple are such magic tech wizards then why couldn't they make AirPower work?