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I have a feeling that should push come to shove china will turn out to be an overrated “power”, much like russia. I have nothing against china to be honest, i a

I have a feeling that should push come to shove china will turn out to be an overrated “power”, much like russia. I have nothing against china to be honest, i admire their determination and capacity to grow, but absolutely dislike their desire to expand militarily. While war is dangerous and undesirable for us, it is worse and even less desirable for china. If anything, their posturing will galvanise the much needed relationship between the us, free europe, and aligned nations even further. Personally i find such outcome good for us, and totally not desirable for china, russia, and other wannabe “powers”.

sterlind 3y ago
Unlike Russia, China actually makes stuff domestically. Like, a majority of the world's stuff, even. So their supply chain is rock solid. Also, China's corruption is a lot more.. functional.. than Russia. It oils the machine, blends with networking, rewards being a little greedy but punishes excess. And leadership is much more calculating and plans long-term. They've built on multi-decade plans successfully, frankly surpassing the West in that regard. And finally, I think war is equally undesirable for us and China, considering we both have nukes, and direct war between nuclear powers is unacceptable. Nuclear wars have no winners.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  I agree with everything, particularly with: > And finally, I think war is equally undesirable for us and China, considering we both have nukes, and direct war between nuclear powers is unacceptable. Nuclear wars have no winners. It is a shame that china is taking the route of russia in lingering over its “glorious” past. If it would just settle it’s differences with taiwan and accept that taiwan can be like austria is for germany, allow hong kong a special status, and move on from all this petty posturing and warmongering, it would easily double its gdp and most important it would stand a chance at lifting its citizens out of poverty. But it all boils down to the “ambitions” of insecure leaders, as in any country that takes that route. And for me personally that makes china a huge disappointment - i really thought it could do better.
  - vkou 3y ago
    It'll double it's GDP regardless of whether it follows through on its imperial ambitions or not, though. Meanwhile, the only thing that's doubling in Russia is the price of butter.
- splistud 3y ago
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sterlind 3y ago

Unlike Russia, China actually makes stuff domestically. Like, a majority of the world's stuff, even. So their supply chain is rock solid. Also, China's corruption is a lot more.. functional.. than Russia. It oils the machine, blends with networking, rewards being a little greedy but punishes excess. And leadership is much more calculating and plans long-term. They've built on multi-decade plans successfully, frankly surpassing the West in that regard. And finally, I think war is equally undesirable for us and China, considering we both have nukes, and direct war between nuclear powers is unacceptable. Nuclear wars have no winners.

gumballindie 3y ago
I agree with everything, particularly with: > And finally, I think war is equally undesirable for us and China, considering we both have nukes, and direct war between nuclear powers is unacceptable. Nuclear wars have no winners. It is a shame that china is taking the route of russia in lingering over its “glorious” past. If it would just settle it’s differences with taiwan and accept that taiwan can be like austria is for germany, allow hong kong a special status, and move on from all this petty posturing and warmongering, it would easily double its gdp and most important it would stand a chance at lifting its citizens out of poverty. But it all boils down to the “ambitions” of insecure leaders, as in any country that takes that route. And for me personally that makes china a huge disappointment - i really thought it could do better.
- vkou 3y ago
  It'll double it's GDP regardless of whether it follows through on its imperial ambitions or not, though. Meanwhile, the only thing that's doubling in Russia is the price of butter.
splistud 3y ago
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