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A great litmus test to see if an educational administrator is knowledgeable on STEM is to see if they regard woodshop/metalshop/autoshop as purely "vocational".

A great litmus test to see if an educational administrator is knowledgeable on STEM is to see if they regard woodshop/metalshop/autoshop as purely "vocational". Bare in mind, vocational still means "not college bound" == "useless" == "doesn't look good in the US news rankings" Ive talked to superintendents and they just give me a blank stare when I told them that a great way to get kids to understand the cartesian coordinate system is in machine or woodshop, reading a blueprint, schematic etc. Actually doing the work is better than a word problem. They have no respect for it and this is in the best educated state in the US with supposedly the best school system. Bottom line, if we are going to build things again, it needs to start in the schools.

willcipriano 3y ago
I'd argue this attitude is sexist. Boys tend to learn best with hands on instruction[0], like woodshop, and as we see girls are outnumbering boys in college and the trend is increasing. Instead of including activities and topics that engage boys, we push boys into special education classes and feed them drugs to punish them for not being more like the girls. [0]https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-boys-learning-styles-differ-0211134 https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-boys-learning-styles-di...
porknubbins 3y ago
Learning the cartesian coordinate system from shopwork may work for some but my experience is the majority of tradespeople, even very skilled ones dislike STEM and academic subjects and see their trade as a body of facts and hands on skills not something systematic from which to learn abstract mathematical principles. The few who can are well equipped to be actual engineers.
eli_gottlieb 3y ago
Sounds like a crappy change, because when I was in 8th grade in MA they literally had us take a class learning to use a blueprinting desk and the Cartesian coordinate system.

willcipriano 3y ago

I'd argue this attitude is sexist. Boys tend to learn best with hands on instruction[0], like woodshop, and as we see girls are outnumbering boys in college and the trend is increasing. Instead of including activities and topics that engage boys, we push boys into special education classes and feed them drugs to punish them for not being more like the girls. [0]https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-boys-learning-styles-differ-0211134 https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-boys-learning-styles-di...

porknubbins 3y ago

Learning the cartesian coordinate system from shopwork may work for some but my experience is the majority of tradespeople, even very skilled ones dislike STEM and academic subjects and see their trade as a body of facts and hands on skills not something systematic from which to learn abstract mathematical principles. The few who can are well equipped to be actual engineers.

eli_gottlieb 3y ago

Sounds like a crappy change, because when I was in 8th grade in MA they literally had us take a class learning to use a blueprinting desk and the Cartesian coordinate system.